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[Charms7]

These are horrific incidents, CorbinKale and brownmouse. It is beyond words. Prayers for all.

[arista]

I just find the killing of the dogs so sad and unnecessary.

[Luli]

I actually had something similar happen- but not nearly as horrific.

My husband was going out of town for a few days and I was a nervous wreck because he was flying - and I had been dealing with a lot of anxiety of the late. Anyway the evening he was in air I was sick with a fever and sitting watching cartoons with our then 3 year old daughter.-I was looking real pretty with sweat pants on and an old flannel of my husband's, my hair was all a whacky and -well, I looked pretty scary.Anyway- I thought I kept seeing a bright light flash outside our house but we were sitting in the bottom level of our house (we live in a tri- level) and the windows are smallish and hard to see out of. - I dismissed it as a cough syrup effect. But then there was this harsh knock at our front door. I went up and almost fell on my knees when I saw a pair of policemen there. First thing that came in my anxious, medicined mind was that my husband's plane crashed and here they were to tell me. My 2 golden retrievers(big dogs , granted) were at my side barking up a storm. The 2 cops said" Step outside , mam." I said " Is it my husband? Are you here about my husband?" and they just said , louder"STEP OUTSIDE , MAM,"- rather meanly. I was still convinced my husband's plane crashed and didn't really take note of their tone so I said , again "Is my husband OK?" at this point they got real mean, real fast. They started yelling at me to "STEP OUTSIDE" and then they were yelling "PUT THE DOGS UP, MAM!! PUT THE DOGS UP!!!" In my confusion I remember thinking ' put them up? How do I put 2 100lb dogs up anywhere? I then kinda shook off some confusion and told them I could not step outside as I have a special needs daughter (who was starting to make her way upstairs, ready to cry from all the noise) and couldn't leave her alone in the house. I said they could come inside - and I could tell that surprised them- but then I thought- what if they were impersonating policemen and so I asked for ID- they refused to show me- REALLY_ they said- 'you can see we are the police- see our car?" and I was so confused and still worrying about my husband ( though I kinda figured it couldn't be that - why would they be so darn mean if something had happened to him) that I let them in- I could kick myself- not because they did anything bad when I let them in but they HAVE to show id if asked and I let them walk all over me.-and I wish I had their names! Oh, at this time I had let my dogs out back- They came inside and their demeanor changed( I think they were expecting a mess of a house and, for once- thank- goodness- it was clean) - I could see it- and the younger cop asks me my last name- I told him and he goes to the older cop "didn't they say it was Brown?" and the older one says, kinda , hushed, "that doesn't matter" and then they ask" Is this Clemmont St?" and I'm like "No, this is ..... Circle- that street is DOWN ONE!!"- at this time my daughter is crying and I am trying to soothe her and they are starting to look rather sheepish. They kind of slink out of my house without even an apology- my daughter is freaking out - and all my neighbors are on their front stoops watching. Later I found out there was a call for child neglect ON THE STREET NEXT TO ME - same house number as me-The bas@#@!s They scared the crap out of me and my daughter- and I had to go and explain everything to all my neighbors- who know me and , thank- goodness- believed me. My daughter was scared of policemen for years- really. I just wish I had gotten their names.

That's horrible and traumatizing!

[Luli]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/07/...ant/index.html

These cowardly, dog-killing, government thugs should be charged with murder. Just more evidence backing up my theory of human nature. People who desire power over others, often gravitate to jobs that provide them a good supply of victims.

I can't believe they did that! It's not very logical that they just shoot the dogs for no apparent reason.

[rose key]

Over a package of marijuana they break down the door and shoot the dogs?
How did they get a "no-knock warrant" for something like this?? There was no reason to believe these people were violent, why would they enter the house like that? I hope those officers get relieved of duty.
And Brownmouse, you're so lucky they didn't shoot your dogs, too. They have some cojones not to even apologize for scaring you and your daughter!!

[BlackThorn]

Oh my god, there might be a package of marijuana! Think of the lives that will be lost if that package makes it to its destination! SHOOT ANYTHING THAT MOVES!!!

Come on, if the guy really was doing anything serious with dope, he would have already paid for his protection. It's really not hard to get it, especially when you're at that type of political status. He would have been on a list, that the higher ups that designed these types of operations, would make sure he stayed clear from even being noticed. Matter of fact, maybe that's why this bust went down. It said they only knew his wife's name. Maybe this is a botched cartel protection.

And sure, the comment explaining how 'the dogs would have hindered the special forces operation' was true. They would have been in the faces of the special units, and there might have been some licking and wagging involved. Ugh, I swear, I'm far too vindictive for this earth. The ones who designed this "bust" would be in some really deep water with me if this sort of thing went down, and I'm not an idiot when it comes to 'cask of amontillado' worthy repercussions. A mans home is his castle. If he can't feel safe there, where can he? Examples would be made from this.

And a no-knock warrant? Jesus hell! If someone bursts into my home with body armor or black hoods on, and shouts, "FBI, ON THE FLOOR!!!"... hell, how do you know it's even them? Maybe they're terrorists, or thieves. If I didn't honestly understand and trust who it was that invading my home, I'd probably just start shooting back, and lots of people would die.

[Narcissus]

They've been covering this on our local news..and I too think its awful. A no knock warrant for a package of weed is ridiculous. And yeah, if they broke into the house the dogs would cause issues as their instinct is to protect the family..so don't break in. I have a brother-n-law who's a cop, and I'm friends with people on both sides of the law here in my town, and they ALL think this was a travesty

[PatInTheHat]

But the ends always justifies the means in the war on drugs...right...or anything for that matter?

This is just the most recent incident, some are even more tragic and atrocious.

A 92 year old lady in Atlanta by the name of Katheryn Johnston was shot and killed a couple of years ago and the depth of the "legal" depravity the came out of that was, well, depraved...and unfortunately not as uncommon as most would like to believe.

Read this if you sleep all warm and cozy at night, safe in the knowledge that the authorities are there only to serve and protect...and you wish to maybe sleep not so warm & cozy.
(Ahh hell, what are the odds really, afterall, Katheryn Johnston lived a whole 92 years before she was murdered (yes, I say murdered) in her home by those that swore to serve and protect her...so that she could sleep all warm and cozy...in safety..in her own home.)

http://www.reason.com/news/show/123632.html

This is one of the best written pieces I've read of this particular case (I have more, too many), with more information that was given out in the main stream media in the aftermath and subsequent investigation.
(I only mention this case because it's the one that made my head explode...I'm still cleaning up the mess.)

Control freaks & moralistic hypocrites spreading the word and infection, armed with nothing more than propaganda and laughably false "science"...oh, and not to mention government issued fat checks based on performance & quotas, sure make life a tad more interesting don't they?

[CorbinKale]

Pat, that is just one in a constant stream of corruption and incompetence from those who swear to protect and serve us.

Don't read this one unless you have a few hours before you need to eat or sleep:

http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com...rape-gang.html

[Terry B]

I actually had something similar happen- but not nearly as horrific.

My husband was going out of town for a few days and I was a nervous wreck because he was flying - and I had been dealing with a lot of anxiety of the late. Anyway the evening he was in air I was sick with a fever and sitting watching cartoons with our then 3 year old daughter.-I was looking real pretty with sweat pants on and an old flannel of my husband's, my hair was all a whacky and -well, I looked pretty scary.Anyway- I thought I kept seeing a bright light flash outside our house but we were sitting in the bottom level of our house (we live in a tri- level) and the windows are smallish and hard to see out of. - I dismissed it as a cough syrup effect. But then there was this harsh knock at our front door. I went up and almost fell on my knees when I saw a pair of policemen there. First thing that came in my anxious, medicined mind was that my husband's plane crashed and here they were to tell me. My 2 golden retrievers(big dogs , granted) were at my side barking up a storm. The 2 cops said" Step outside , mam." I said " Is it my husband? Are you here about my husband?" and they just said , louder"STEP OUTSIDE , MAM,"- rather meanly. I was still convinced my husband's plane crashed and didn't really take note of their tone so I said , again "Is my husband OK?" at this point they got real mean, real fast. They started yelling at me to "STEP OUTSIDE" and then they were yelling "PUT THE DOGS UP, MAM!! PUT THE DOGS UP!!!" In my confusion I remember thinking ' put them up? How do I put 2 100lb dogs up anywhere? I then kinda shook off some confusion and told them I could not step outside as I have a special needs daughter (who was starting to make her way upstairs, ready to cry from all the noise) and couldn't leave her alone in the house. I said they could come inside - and I could tell that surprised them- but then I thought- what if they were impersonating policemen and so I asked for ID- they refused to show me- REALLY_ they said- 'you can see we are the police- see our car?" and I was so confused and still worrying about my husband ( though I kinda figured it couldn't be that - why would they be so darn mean if something had happened to him) that I let them in- I could kick myself- not because they did anything bad when I let them in but they HAVE to show id if asked and I let them walk all over me.-and I wish I had their names! Oh, at this time I had let my dogs out back- They came inside and their demeanor changed( I think they were expecting a mess of a house and, for once- thank- goodness- it was clean) - I could see it- and the younger cop asks me my last name- I told him and he goes to the older cop "didn't they say it was Brown?" and the older one says, kinda , hushed, "that doesn't matter" and then they ask" Is this Clemmont St?" and I'm like "No, this is ..... Circle- that street is DOWN ONE!!"- at this time my daughter is crying and I am trying to soothe her and they are starting to look rather sheepish. They kind of slink out of my house without even an apology- my daughter is freaking out - and all my neighbors are on their front stoops watching. Later I found out there was a call for child neglect ON THE STREET NEXT TO ME - same house number as me-The bas@#@!s They scared the crap out of me and my daughter- and I had to go and explain everything to all my neighbors- who know me and , thank- goodness- believed me. My daughter was scared of policemen for years- really. I just wish I had gotten their names.

<<<<<<<<<<<Brownmouse>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You have got to be one of the sweetest people in the world. I would have been spitting mad and probably would have ended up in jail. How awful for you and your daughter to have to go through. The insensitivity. Did you ever report their behavior to anyone?