Change Brady to a charity, or give it away for free.

[Sepia and Dust]

As Ms Mod stated many posts ago- why should the 'rights' of some people who own these types of weapons infringe on the 'rights' of the many who DO NOT WANT THESE WEAPONS AVAILABLE?

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Democracy rules here as does the majority and the majority of folk don't want these weapons anymore. Period.

That's not really the way things work in the US. Besides, the post you quoted was in response to a tangential point unrelated to the proposed semiautomatic ban.

[PatInTheHat]

**The previous comments were in no way meant to be snarky. Any resemblance to or perceived appearance of, snarkiness, is purely unintentional and coincidental.

Okay, so that part was maybe a little disappointing.....PATRICK!!!...yeah 'k

[champ1966]

Jim Carrey has put himself in the firing line

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pun intended

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[exzel]

Zel you are not the devil. Everybody knows she's female and she's *ahem*... me! Seriously, though, you are one of the nicest people I've had the pleasure to converse with here. Sure your opinions may seem a bit whackadoodle at times--and you can say the same about us--but I respect that you believe in them enough to defend them. You've proven to me in the past you're a damn good man so stop trying to steal my from me...it's mine! ya Zel.

Hey, don’t go pissin’ on my perceived persona (sorry for murdering alliteration)

And seriously… You the devil? (That’s like saying Ms. Mod has always been George W Bush’s biggest fan)

Sorry my dear, but that statement will cost you five “Our Father’s” and four “Hail Mary’s.” The kindness in your heart is legendary here.

[Lily Sawyer]

I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment
during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves …"
Richard Henry Lee
writing in Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic, Letter XVIII, May, 1788.

"The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full posession of them."
Zachariah Johnson
Elliot's Debates, vol. 3 "The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution."

"… the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms"
Philadelphia Federal Gazette
June 18, 1789, Pg. 2, Col. 2
Article on the Bill of Rights

"And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; …"
Samuel Adams
quoted in the Philadelphia Independent Gazetteer, August 20, 1789, "Propositions submitted to the Convention of this State"

"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
George Washington
First President of the United States

"The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand arms, like laws, discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside … Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them."
Thomas Paine

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
Richard Henry Lee
American Statesman, 1788

"The great object is that every man be armed." and "Everyone who is able may have a gun."
Patrick Henry
American Patriot

"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?"
Patrick Henry
American Patriot

"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Thomas Jefferson
Third President of the United States

"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that … it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; … "
Thomas Jefferson
letter to Justice John Cartwright, June 5, 1824. ME 16:45.

"The best we can help for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
Alexander Hamilton
The Federalist Papers at 184-8

Zel, none of these state that a citizen needs to be "armed to the teeth".
Patrick Henry would be sadly disappointed if I had to give him an answer to his question "are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense?"
My answer would be "it's my opinion that no one outside law enforcement can truly be trusted with a gun of any sort."

It's no secret I'd push the Red Button on Todash's remote to repeal the Second Amendment.

[Moderator]

(That’s like saying Ms. Mod has always been George W Bush’s biggest fan)

Not unless you want a serious mouth washing. I've heard Dove has a particularly creamy texture leaving your tongue silky smooth.

[Todash]

Tonight I will eat pork chops and revel in the fact that I don't do it because I have a right to eat, but rather that I like the taste of pig and was able to vicariously outsmart it and eat it before it ate me.

Many a farmer has thought that too, then discovered to their fatal detriment that they did not actually have the upper hand. Mind yer back, is all I'm saying. Mind yer back.

[Moderator]

And your baby back, salt back, fat back....

[hossenpepper]

...I've been a bit crankier than usual of late...just tired of people poopin' on Steve and others, and then gettin' all huffy and out of sorts when I call em on it...

And you are an avid gun supporter and have civilly expressed your disagreement with some of Steve's thoughts. But, the difference is that you did so as a mature adult, weighing in to spark deeper discussion. This is because you recognize that almost everything in life requires a compromise in the end, thus requiring a debate that opens thoughts that you and the other side may not have realized. The constant conspiracy crap gets old. The "I am gonna quit reading SK on some esoteric principle" does too.

I love Steve's writing, of course, and see it as much more than the brutal honesty of it most focus upon, but to use his type of genre to make a moral stand is kind of twisted if you think about it. It's like a priest nixing the writings of Paul of Tarsus because he feels Paul was too much of an a$$hole.

[exzel]

Zel, none of these state that a citizen needs to be "armed to the teeth".
Patrick Henry would be sadly disappointed if I had to give him an answer to his question "are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense?"
My answer would be "it's my opinion that no one outside law enforcement can truly be trusted with a gun of any sort."

It's no secret I'd push the Red Button on Todash's remote to repeal the Second Amendment.

After reading the wisdom of our Founding Fathers, I guess my interpretation is somewhat different than yours.

And Lily, that’s what’s great about our country... we can express vastly different opinions and ideologies, and still be respectable, friendly and supportive. Keep fighting the good fight! We need people like you to keep us “whackadoodles” in check at times.

(And be careful about pushing Todash’s buttons… you never know what to expect.)