Derry in 11/22/63

[~Ally~]

I loved the connection. What I did not like was

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SK inserting himself in the DT, It threw the story off for me.

And this here is a prime example of a spoiler that could ruin part of the DT series for those who haven't read it. Prior warning could at least be given to state it is a DT related spoiler, since this isn't a DT thread.

[kingricefan]

[QUOTE=Shasta;537651]

OK, I just know I'm going to get flamed for this but I have to finally admit to my friends here on the Board that I just did not enjoy 11/22/63 fully because SK tied it into IT, which then ties it into the Dark Tower saga. QUOTE]

As far as I can tell (and believe me, I have spent years researching this) all books tie back to the Dark Tower somehow. Sorry to disapoint.

I really do love the Dark Tower books, I think they are his best novels, don't get me wrong. I just didn't like the connection with 11/22/63.

[Homer403]

OK, I just know I'm going to get flamed for this but I have to finally admit to my friends here on the Board that I just did not enjoy 11/22/63 fully because SK tied it into IT, which then ties it into the Dark Tower saga. There, I've said it, it's out there for you all to read now. Please be gentle with the flaming!! I was totally unprepared to have this particular book tied in with the DT books. When George/Jake travels to Derry and meets up with Richie and Bev I almost threw the book down, it upset me so much! I did like the constant banter between the three of them, but it WAS unsettleing for G/J to be there, for me, also as I kept waiting for something bad to happen to him. I guess I was expecting more focus to be on Oswald after I knew that King did so much research for this book. I will probably enjoy it more on a re-read, which I WILL do, but it won't be soon. King is still my fav author, always will be, but this book just didn't really do it for me this time.

Great post! I,on the other hand,rank 11/22/63 in my personal top 5 SK novels and enjoyed it waay more than WTTKH.It just seemed that Mr.King may have forced himself,just a little,to write WTTKH whereas 11/22/63 seemed to come more naturally.

[Bryan James]

It felt like Harper Lee's pre-Halloween season change in "Mockingbird," at least the movie version....that whole "something just ain't right here" vibe.

Might have had something to do with the main character knowing that "something just ain't right here" so he was keyed (pardon) that there was something else.

Deeper down.

[GNTLGNT]

When he's writing, he's passing them along to his constant readers.

...what a giving type of guy...his generosity is only exceeded by his good looks...

...said "nightmares" soundtrack provided by Uncle Alice...

[doowopgirl]

I actually love it when SK links parts of books. It makes for an SK universe that I spend as much time as possible in. The scene in Derry was very heavy with atmosphere. The other bits that turn up in 11/22/63 just made me love it more. I have just started Wolves of the Calla and found SK put himself in there. Hey, it's his book and if you can't put yourself in your own book, then I just don't know.

[not_nadine]

And this here is a prime example of a spoiler that could ruin part of the DT series for those who haven't read it. Prior warning could at least be given to state it is a DT related spoiler, since this isn't a DT thread.

Very good point, Ally and I say thankya. I will be more considerate in the future.

[PrisonerNumber6]

Actually, I'm willing to believe as how the inclusion of characters from It actually was part of the story. I think you can tell by the natural flow the words on the page have. It's when description and dialogue achieve that special crossover into the realm of prose poetry that is the hallmark of all great book, whether lit'try or popular. I saw that same prose quality in the scenes with Richie and Bev.

I think what people like Harold Bloom dislike might be coming upon that same prose poetics in places where they believe it doesn't belong or more thinking along the lines of "Who's this upstart pretending to be one of the few, the proud, the ones called to a high and lonely destiny above the common rabble". At least there's one way of thinking about it.

[dsurrett]

I think the references to IT make Derry seem a bit darker, justifiably so. But if someone read 11/22/63 without first reading IT, I don't think they would walk away with a sense of having missed anything that explained the darkness. Dallas was as bad as Derry in many respects, without allusions to Pennywise. Maybe King was trying to let the readers know that small and medium sized towns in the late 50s and early 60s weren't usually like Mayberry.

[Beep-Beep]

Personally love any chance to get back to Derry, and the chance to spend a bit more time with a couple of the Losers was great, but for sure that part of the book i spent wondering what was around every corner