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    Anyone else sense a bit of a hint twoards IT while reading TGWLTG. I couldn't help but noticing all the italisized "It"s when the narrator refered to the stalking creature. Anyone play around with the idea that the God of the Lost is of the same species as IT? It took the form of a bear, but when Trisha looked at it, she saw wasps in its throat and deer innards, two things she deeply feared.

    I like to view this as a little tip to IT. One of King's shortest novels connecting with on of his longest.

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    i had never thought of the IT connection but i can see that now and he quite often has links between his books. tom gordon had always made me think of lord of the flies with a child being lost on her own and the wasp bear thing.

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    I can't really see it. While both books have some evil force that peeps through the cracks, It is much more spiteful and it is very clear it doesn't need to hunt - it uses people against each other and against themselves and tempts us with our own fears. It is a city creature. It goes where people live. The evilness in The Girl who Loves Tom Gordon is more primal. It lurks in the forest and lives off the Earth.

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    yeah, there's connections to It. belief. and the idea that, as sk said in 'an evening w/sk' from secret windows, 'at one point in the story, tricia says, why do you point? [she's asking tom gordon this--he often pointed skyward, i guess, after a save] her version of tom gordon says that it's the nature of god to come on in the bottom of the ninth with runners on base.'

    all the monsters are connected. they crawl out of that hole when you blink. but yeah, i think i noticed the same thing, thought the same thing. It, capitalized.

    there's also that 'expression of belief' w/the telling of what happens to close out the ballgame in tgwltg. maybe it's the 'coming of the white'. maybe it's known as something else. maybe it's best expressed w/t.g. finger upraised, #1.

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    Default Re: Connection with IT *spoilers for TGWLTG*

    No. I didn't really see the connection.

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    Default Re: Connection with IT *spoilers for TGWLTG*

    Quote Originally Posted by michal View Post
    I can't really see it. While both books have some evil force that peeps through the cracks, It is much more spiteful and it is very clear it doesn't need to hunt - it uses people against each other and against themselves and tempts us with our own fears. It is a city creature. It goes where people live. The evilness in The Girl who Loves Tom Gordon is more primal. It lurks in the forest and lives off the Earth.
    I saw the connection to "It". I think I noticed it more due to the fact that I just read "It" right before this book. But I see how they could be the same type of creature. I don't think of "It" as a city creature though, as mentioned by michal. He was supposedly there for a million+ years. Or even if not a million years, he was there before Derry had people living there. Also "It" did use people against each other, but there weren't any other people with Trisha until the end. It used people so that the Loser's club would not be able to use their knowledge of how to beat "It" against the possessed human, if that makes sense. Unless I misinterpreted that pasrt of the book.

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    I don't know if its been said before but the bear at the end had maggots coming from its nose. Just like the guardian of the Beam in Dark Tower 2 (or what ever number) . We all know that in some worlds (universes) the lines between each world is thin-weak-open, Trisha stumbled onto one of these areas around TR90/ where the Bear (Shadrik ,I think) was trying to guard his beam but was confused , The Gods of the Lost ect. came out to help Trisha, for reasons we don't understand yet . This means Trisha is important . Just like the boy at the end of the dark tower. The boy with no tongue. The boy that Erased the Crmsn. King. The boy who was there when Susan Day lost her head (.Its the same boy right ?)
    That boy was said to be very,VERY important .
    I BELIEVE TRISHA IS ALSO VERY, VERY IMPORTANT !

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    I never thought of that, but you must be very observant to notice that. I never thought that all of the things she encountered could have been Pennywise The Dancing Clowen (IT) in disguise! Very observant!

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