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    Quote Originally Posted by Tery View Post
    Regulating the types of weapons that can be legally purchased by non-military types is NOT violating the 2nd Amendment. It does not say ANYWHERE in that paragraph that the right of the people to own bazookas shall not be infringed. What nonsense!
    I doesn't mention pointed sticks, either, but both bazookas and sharp sticks fall under the category of arms. Since the Founders included the 2nd Amendment as a security measure against the government disarming the public to the point it was defenseless against tyranny from the government, it is logical to conclude that any arms that might be brought to bear against the populace, are protected. Might the government send tanks against the citizens? Then tanks are protected under the 2nd Amendment. I am sure we can agree that nuclear weapons are not protected... unless the government might turn them on its own citizens.

    "Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American...[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people."
    --Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.


    http://economics.gmu.edu/wew/quotes/arms.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tery View Post
    No, that's fallacious logic, JR. The way to keep assault weapons away from criminals is to regulate who can sell them. They can't be sold to anyone but current military personnel. If one follows your line of thinking, well by god, let's not even bother to regulate anti-ballistic missiles, tanks, and other heavy artillery. Gosh, how can we possibly keep them away from the criminals? So, heck... let anyone have them!

    Regulating the types of weapons that can be legally purchased by non-military types is NOT violating the 2nd Amendment. It does not say ANYWHERE in that paragraph that the right of the people to own bazookas shall not be infringed. What nonsense!

    BTW, I own a gun myself. And I fully support regulation and limits.
    I don't think so. I know the 2nd amemdment doesn't say that people have the right to own bazookas (considering the fact they wern't invented at that time) but the point is, is that you can still get one if you wanted to, ban or no ban. Do you think the terrorist bought their weapons at the corner armory? No they purchased them on the black market.

    My whole point is this. No amount of govenment regulation is going to stop this. All its going to do is give criminals the edge. That's it.

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    A hundered years ago, or two say, you had to have guts and brains and strength to even stay alive long enough to even get to the point of trying to foster children.

    These days, you can be the most mentally disturbed and uncaring individual, and you can still dump all the children you want onto the world, and chances are they'll all make it to over 30, no matter if they were even taught to have half a brain in their head or not.

    I love to hear of strong children. I got a buddy that has a lot of children, and he trains them in ancient arts of protection and defense mentally and physically from the moment they are trainable. I've seen a four or five year old doing things at a demonstration in the past, that would tear through adults that had been bar fighting their whole lives.

    I honestly believe that the only way we'll make a difference on this planet, is to give and nudge our children to use every chance they have at living a full and wonderful and productive life, and with the way the world is now, that includes being strong in the face of some very dark adversity. Being gunslinger hard when it comes to morals and obligations ourselves is the only way we can even dredge a path that is worth following on this earth, as it is now.

    I hope someday to be able to say that "yeah, I did have kids lived", and honestly mean it. I'm sure not gonna breed for the hell of it, and then not invest absolutely everything into their lives.

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