Greyhound killer not criminally responsible...

[tempest]

Maybe I was playing with you a little here. But that is what happens when you make sweeping generalizations about the mentally ill. When the same can be said about psychologist, as they vary in their personalities and skill. Watch: "Never Talk To Strangers" starring Antonio Bandaras

Right across the border in Minnesota mentally ill are being turned away and murders are happening because of it. Beheadings.

A Prescription for Mayhem
**How shrinking psych wards spell trouble
Beth Hawkins
Published on January 11, 2006

"Before Stephen Miles killed his stepmother, he tried to check himself into the hospital. ........According to a criminal complaint filed last week in Dakota County District Court,the 23-year-old Eagan man killed his stepmother, Maris Jo Miles, with a hatchet blow to the head and then decapitated her with a knife.

Complete story here: http://www.citypages.com/2006-01-11/...on-for-mayhem/

Now you be the decider. A man on grey hound chops of a mans head with no history of mental illness. A man in minnesota with dx of schizophrenia is denied psychiatric hospitalization and later beheads his step mother.

How do we know the greyhound guy did not get turned away for mental illness treatment?

[staropeace]

In Canada nobody gets turned away from getting mental illness treatment....services are free....psychiatrists are free...there are other agencies with psychologists and social workers..........also free. So how can he get turned away?

There are all kinds of mental illnesses but insanity,itself,has very narrow definitions. The Canadian court system seem to be ignoring the parameters of this definition.

I can suffer from a neurosis...doesnt give me the right to go behead anyone.
Thing I am hearing more of, and others here are troubled about,is the tendency of the courts and the media to place blame on everyone but the accused. If a heinous act is committed it is the fault of the relatives for not seeing this persons instability....it is the fault of the agencies for not offering the right kind of councilling etc. It is everyones fault but the person who committed the act. This doesnt make sense. I think this thinking is whats escalating crime rates. We are seeing some awful crimes here in Alberta and somewhere along the line...I blame ourselves for putting up with it. Think we lost our backbone.

[rjt65]

Tempest I will disagree, hope it does not offend you or anyone.

It is what it is--even if he or others did get turned away --he is still responsible.... don't care if God the devil or a flying pig with red eyes is speaking to a person. they kill, they need to be terminated.

IMO Society is getting to "PC" these days, blaming everyone and taking no personable responsibility.

PS- My mom worked in a hospital Psyc. ward for over 15 years.

Maybe I was playing with you a little here. But that is what happens when you make sweeping generalizations about the mentally ill. When the same can be said about psychologist, as they vary in their personalities and skill. Watch: "Never Talk To Strangers" starring Antonio Bandaras

Right across the border in Minnesota mentally ill are being turned away and murders are happening because of it. Beheadings.

A Prescription for Mayhem
**How shrinking psych wards spell trouble
Beth Hawkins
Published on January 11, 2006

"Before Stephen Miles killed his stepmother, he tried to check himself into the hospital. ........According to a criminal complaint filed last week in Dakota County District Court,the 23-year-old Eagan man killed his stepmother, Maris Jo Miles, with a hatchet blow to the head and then decapitated her with a knife.

Complete story here: http://www.citypages.com/2006-01-11/...on-for-mayhem/

Now you be the decider. A man on grey hound chops of a mans head with no history of mental illness. A man in minnesota with dx of schizophrenia is denied psychiatric hospitalization and later beheads his step mother.

How do we know the greyhound guy did not get turned away for mental illness treatment?

[gclark]

I have to take the eye for an eye view on this.

So "God" told him to kill his friend because he was evil.. It probably isn't hard to act crazy, or at least crazy enough to make people believe you were crazy when you did bad things. So where will it end? so if i wanted to, i could go today, kill a couple of people at random, and then when i got caught tell everyone that it was because god said they were evil?

to me it's a load of hogwash for us to declare him not criminally liable for the killing... i say, send him to the mental institute for a month, get a phsyc eval, some meds if he needs it, and off to the penitentary with him.

[finalfantasyVII]

I just found this and people are sick..like he didn't know what he was doing??? and no one tried to stop him?? ...Good reading..Mark, FFVII

[staropeace]

Nobody tried to stop him on the bus because it happened so quickly. He was sitting by the young man who had headphones in and was sleeping. The killer had enjoyed a cigarette break with some other passengers during a stop and went back and sat down....acting normal. He whipped out this knife and started stabbing...by the time the other passengers understood what was going on,the young man was probably dead. There were children and babies on the bus ....in a confined space. Once folks realized what he had done and that he had this wicked stabbing instrument...they got off the bus and barred him in there.. Nobody wanted a crazy guy with a dismembered head in his fist to escape that bus.

I knew him enough to know what he likes on his burgers and to meet him coming back and forth from his apartment. He didnt act like he had a hard time in a social environment.