Greyhound killer not criminally responsible...

**Srbo** · March 5th, 2009

I know there was a thread here a few month ago when this happened, and here is what the judge ruled:

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/0...s_beheading_14

So...I don`t know what to say...
Send him to a hospital, feed him, cure him, give him cable...everything...

And that young guy stays beheaded...and dead...

**staropeace** · March 5th, 2009

He lived in my building...if I had a choice,I would put a bullet through his head. It could have been one of us or our loved ones. He could have taken that knife out before he left the building.........he wasnt insane ...he had enough skills to cope in public...I should know...I saw him day to day.

**JRLauer** · March 5th, 2009

I never believed in this mental illness crap. What ever happened to "An eye for an eye". People need to be responsible for their actions. This is not responible. The judge is practically rewarding this guy for his violent behavior. What message does that send to our kids?

**CorbinKale** · March 5th, 2009

I expected this. This is the only possible ruling for a government intent on disarming its people. If they had found him guilty of murder, that would imply a reason for self defense, which would conflict with the gun ban propaganda. Better to find him 'not responsible' and keep the masses defenseless in the interests of civilization.

**staropeace** · March 5th, 2009

He had his senses about him.........I dont understand our justice system at all. The guy could engage in normal conversation and he could socialize...at least he could the day before....he may have had a disorder...but that doesnt mean he was insane and didnt know right from wrong...we label everyone now...and pay homage to Dr.Phil.... What we dont label people is plain ole evil..........too bad.

**tillyn** · March 5th, 2009

I thankfully didn't know the fellow (sorry star that you knew of him) but my heart goes out to Mcclean's mom/dad, family. This is not a surprise to me i figured it would be an insanity ruling.( I actually know a fellow who was schio. and this sort of thing did happen to him. He was finally given the proper meds. and is under control now.) I'm hoping he never sees the light of day.
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Originally Posted by CorbinKale

I expected this. This is the only possible ruling for a government intent on disarming its people. If they had found him guilty of murder, that would imply a reason for self defense, which would conflict with the gun ban propaganda. Better to find him 'not responsible' and keep the masses defenseless in the interests of civilization.

Sorry, but i disagree with the right to bare arms., Canadians are known for being peace keepers, i'm hoping it stays that way. I know our government has rules for everything which i really hate most of the time but i can't say i see the right to bare arms working so great in the States.

**tillyn** · March 5th, 2009

Please don't misunderstand me , but i have worked in the mental health field for the last 20 years. I know i never met/knew the guy, but some people do, do horrendous things due to mental illness. I've worked in a mental ward where the eyes of some patients were black no whites. You knew these people were gone, usually they were having one of there episodes.(usually violent ones) I still see this . I'm not defending this man at all, or labeling him just putting out it there that extreme behaviors happen and yes there are indeed many evil people who walk the earth.

**rjt65** · March 5th, 2009

i could give a hoot how bad he is..to bad --eye for an eye I say.. let him get stabbed and decapitated chopped up and fed to rats.. too bad...

this is despicable--so how long until he is better 6 mo a year? than what will he get a guaranteed job?

this is where both US and Canada need to fix the system..

**Todash** · March 5th, 2009

Staro, I know that you were very much touched by this. It must be very frightening to think how close you existed to someone who could do something this horrible. I truly wish it hadn't happened. So I hope you, and the rest of you, can see that I do not mean any offense by what I am about to say.

There is evil, and there is sick. Occasionally evil may masquerade as sick, and occasionally sick may look a lot like evil, but they are not the same thing. A woman killing her children so that she can be with a man who doesn't want kids—that's evil. A woman killing her children because she thinks God is telling her to so that they can make it into heaven while they're still pure—that's sick.

**staropeace** · March 6th, 2009

I know the difference ....or I wasted alot of money on tuition for a degree in psychology...I have seen it all I think.

....especially when you work with the streetpeople...every disorder one can think of is represented there,and then some.

The thing is,this guy didnt really display this kinda behavior to the folks around him. The pleas of insanity has very stringent definitions. This guy didnt seem to fit many. He knew what he was doing. He interacted with the people on the bus in a normal fashion. Went outside for a smoke with some when there was a bus stop rest. That is what I find hard to accept ,see. He knew right from wrong.If that is the case,then he should take ownership.

All folks here in Canada has to do to be labelled insane is to drool a little and wring their hands.....or say Post-partum depression or something of that nature...it doesnt wash with me. We are doing this all wrong...the city I live in has become like a town in a war torn country in the middle east somewhere..and I feel the justice system is very much responsible.