Freddy/Jason remakes/reboots

[devious1]

so the Friday The 13th remake/reboot will be hitting theaters in less than 2 months, and word just came out that the Nightmare On Elm Street reboot is a go and will start filming this spring. i'm just curious, are you excited about the remakes? disappointed? ambivalent? mad as hell? me, i fall into the last category. i mean don't we already have enough remakes as it is? whatever happened to originality? is there really no one who can come up with a unique, interesting, original idea in Hollywood any more? every movie that comes out now is either a remake or based on a novel or a "true story." now i don't have much of a problem with the last 2, but i still have to wonder where all the ideas went?

and now they are going to ruin (yes, i have no doubt both these movies will be terrible) 2 of my favorite horror movie icons, Freddy and Jason. Rob Zombie already ruined Halloween, that movie was so bad i couldn't even begin to describe how bad i thought it was. i didn't hate the TCM remake but it didn't come close to topping the original. but what's next? a remake of Hellraiser i suppose. i hate Hollywood. :mad2:

your thoughts?

[jackson992]

I thought the remake of TCM was far superior to the original but I agree with you on the remake of Halloween. I am looking very forward to the Friday the 13th remake. But how on Earth can you remake a NOES without Robert Englund.

[the_last_gunslinger]

so the Friday The 13th remake/reboot will be hitting theaters in less than 2 months, and word just came out that the Nightmare On Elm Street reboot is a go and will start filming this spring. i'm just curious, are you excited about the remakes? disappointed? ambivalent? mad as hell? me, i fall into the last category. i mean don't we already have enough remakes as it is? whatever happened to originality? is there really no one who can come up with a unique, interesting, original idea in Hollywood any more? every movie that comes out now is either a remake or based on a novel or a "true story." now i don't have much of a problem with the last 2, but i still have to wonder where all the ideas went?

and now they are going to ruin (yes, i have no doubt both these movies will be terrible) 2 of my favorite horror movie icons, Freddy and Jason. Rob Zombie already ruined Halloween, that movie was so bad i couldn't even begin to describe how bad i thought it was. i didn't hate the TCM remake but it didn't come close to topping the original. but what's next? a remake of Hellraiser i suppose. i hate Hollywood. :mad2:

your thoughts?


Actually, I'm looking forward to the F13th remake. I've always loved Jason's character, but the movies weren't altogether scary, and if they continued with the same series, the plots would border on ludicrous. This could be a great way to give Friday fans more Jason films, while fixing all of the problems of the originals.

And by the way, they are remaking Hellraiser.

[mredskins]

The new Jason runs around like Carl Lewis now! It is going to be weird to see him with agility and speed. I will still see it though, by myself of course at a matinee when my son goes down for a nap one Saturday afternoon. The wife will be like just go I will watch the baby.

[GravemakersAndGunslingers]

I thought that both the remake of TCM and The Hills Have Eyes were very good. The Friday the 13th films are favourites of mine so I share your anxiousness that they get it right - I'll watch it either way, and yeah Billy Bob Thornton as Freddy Kruger in the new NOES? I do not have high hopes for that one.

[Ubasti]

I dunno. Sometimes I think the remakes just go too far. The re make of TCM just can't come anywhere near the original. Really ... why bother? Can you really make a classic better?

[Nero]

I don't mind new additions to the movie library for Halloween/NOES/Friday13th, and I wouldn't mind an honest remake of them just modernizing the ambience to make it more relevant for today's youth... but what bothers me about them is that they CHANGE things. The changes in clothes, faces, cars, slang don't bother me, it's how they attempt to HUMANIZE and EXPLAIN the killers.

I did not want to know that about Michael Myers in the Halloween remake. I did not want to ... UNDERSTAND him. I want to fear him and hate him, I do not want to feel SORRY for him or feel like he can be reached.

From what I understand about the Friday 13th remake, they are going to sum up the first 2 or 3 movies in one, correct? And one of the things I read is to make Jason Voorhes more "believable"... well the whole point of the damn genre is the suspense of belief and FANTASY for entertainment to forget about the rest of the TOO REAL world for a couple hours... to try to bring the two together is absolutely stupid.

[Born In Sin]

I heard a rumor (some time ago) that they were going to make a Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash. Love my Evil Dead, my vote is for Ash!

[jacobtlong]

I hate Hollywood with a passion, but I'm not so shocked about their decision to remake so many of the classic slasher flicks that I have enjoyed for so many years. You have to understand that Hollywood is a simple equation. That equation is: no talent + no ideas = will do anything for money. Once you understand that, you can understand anything. However, I did like Rob Zombie's remake of Halloween and the TCM remake was tolerable. I like Zombie's music and his bizarre tastes in movies. As far as I'm concerned, I'll watch anything Mr. Zombie makes. But if you ask me whether or not the new Friday the 13th would be good, I wouldn't be able to tell you. Hollywood has no problem with desecrating any classic movie, but sometimes they get it right. Sometimes their disasters-in-the-making actually turn out good. That being said, I'm not going to waste what precious money I have to watch the Friday the 13th remake in theaters. But I might borrow it from a friend. And I'll give any other horror remake the same treatment.

[~Ally~]

You definitely cant have Freddie without Robert Englund..they really need to just leave all these good movies alone and come up with some new ideas instead of remaking them..i think it is very hard to ever compete with an original.

[SixPins]

Even better news for those who "loved" the Halloween remake: Zombie will return to write/direct the sequel! Ugh, and to think the directors of Inside were once attached to the project.

The Friday the 13th remake looks fun. I don't take Friday the 13th as serious cinema, as I might take Halloween and Black Christmas, so the idea of it being remade doesn't really bother me.

No England in NOES? What? That's like some sort of analogy that compares two things that wouldn't be the same without each other.

[laymon]

Just to make your day brighter Rob Zombie has signed on for Halloween 2 and a Hellraiser remake is in the works.

[Srbo]

What made me REALLY MAD about remakes and originality is that Martin Scorsese won an Oscar for "The Departed" and that that movie got the Oscar as well for the best movie of that year.

Well, the original is a japanese movie called " Infernal Affairs " and Martin did a TOTAL rip off of that movie - almost scene to scene - and still, it was NOWHERE near as good as the original.

How can a remake , or like I said a total rip off, get an Oscar for best pic and director ?

Hollywood has lost it altogether.

[SKfan2006]

well they are remaking Hellraiser which was said in an interveiw quite some time ago. i'm stoked for F13 since the trailer looked so good.

[Mr Nobody]

I hate all the remakes, too. But, I can see why they do it. For one thing, they look at movies and go 'Imagine how much cooler than can look with CGI!' which really is a mentality they need to (but won't) break out of. For another, it's about cash. The originals are all sold out on DVD. Demographics tell studios that movie-goers - especially perhaps for horror films - are in the 18-24 age group. It's reductive, because if all you release is pap aimed at that market, sure enough it's all you're going to get, so the cycle repeats. The thinking, then, becomes 'Hm. A kid (i.e. 18-24) isn't going to want to watch stuff that's as old or older than they are. We'll remake it...with CGI! Get me Uwe Boll!' (you can insert your own 'favourite' inept directors, I'll let you. :smile2:)

All you can do is sit back and smile. It won't change, and most media are the same. I recently heard a 16 year old raving about a new band. Their name? Nirvana. :oo:

[Presque Vu]

Nightmare on Elm Street - now way, no how, not without Englund!! And don't even mention Hellraiser - shhhhh, or they might get that bug in the ear!

[devious1]

Actually, I'm looking forward to the F13th remake. I've always loved Jason's character, but the movies weren't altogether scary, and if they continued with the same series, the plots would border on ludicrous. This could be a great way to give Friday fans more Jason films, while fixing all of the problems of the originals.

And by the way, they are remaking Hellraiser.i see the point you're trying to make, but the thing is we didn't need another Jason movie. i'm a huge F13 fan but i know when it's time to let something die, and the Friday franchise has been dead since long before Freddy Vs. Jason came out (yet another piece of garbage imo). it was already on it's last legs when Jason X came out and killed the series more brutally than the sleeping-bag-against-the-tree death from part VII. so if they never made another one, i don't think most fans would've cared. we weren't in need of another installment. as for whether the series was "good," well no it wasn't. that is part of what makes them so fun. they weren't meant to be scary, just mindless fun. to try to reinvent the series and make it "scary" is what is bordering on ludicrous to me. all it is is a cheap cash grab because they saw that Halloween made money, so now they're trying to cash in on all the slasher icons of the 70's and 80's by making bad remakes of classic films.

here's my math equation of the day: A Nightmare On Elm Street - Robert Englund = failure.

[the_last_gunslinger]

The new Jason runs around like Carl Lewis now! It is going to be weird to see him with agility and speed. I will still see it though, by myself of course at a matinee when my son goes down for a nap one Saturday afternoon. The wife will be like just go I will watch the baby.

I don't think it will be too weird watching Jason running. I don't know why, but a lot of people have this idea that he never ran, even though he did quite often in the first movies (Part 2, Part 3, The Final Chapter) It wasn't until part six when he became zombified that he only walked.

[jackson992]

I dunno. Sometimes I think the remakes just go too far. The re make of TCM just can't come anywhere near the original. Really ... why bother? Can you really make a classic better?

In the case of TCM I can't even watch the original version any more it is so bad compared to the remake.

[devious1]

In the case of TCM I can't even watch the original version any more it is so bad compared to the remake.see, now i have to ask, what is it about the remake that makes it so much better to you than the original? because i just don't see it. when the original TCM came out in 1974, there had never been anything like it before and it legitimately terrified people. some people actually ran screaming from theaters! and that's not even mentioning the impact that it had on the entire genre of horror in films. sure, tehy can make it look "cooler" with new high tech special effects, but does that really make the film better? of course movies like the 74 TCM look tame compared to the movies that came after it, and especially to movies like Saw and Hostel (neither of which are better than TCM in my opinion), but for its day it was a terrifying film and i think it still stands up to movies of today, and imo it is still better than the remake.

sorry if it seems like i'm attacking your opinion, i'm really not. we're all allowed to like whatever we want to like, and you're certainly entitled to your opinion. but i'm rather curious to know what makes you think the new TCM is better than the '74 version.

[SKfan2006]

I don't think it will be too weird watching Jason running. I don't know why, but a lot of people have this idea that he never ran, even though he did quite often in the first movies (Part 2, Part 3, The Final Chapter) It wasn't until part six when he became zombified that he only walked.

you know whats funny i saw part 3 and i never saw him run in it, only creeping around.

[SKfan2006]

I hate all the remakes, too. But, I can see why they do it. For one thing, they look at movies and go 'Imagine how much cooler than can look with CGI!' which really is a mentality they need to (but won't) break out of. For another, it's about cash. The originals are all sold out on DVD. Demographics tell studios that movie-goers - especially perhaps for horror films - are in the 18-24 age group. It's reductive, because if all you release is pap aimed at that market, sure enough it's all you're going to get, so the cycle repeats. The thinking, then, becomes 'Hm. A kid (i.e. 18-24) isn't going to want to watch stuff that's as old or older than they are. We'll remake it...with CGI! Get me Uwe Boll!' (you can insert your own 'favourite' inept directors, I'll let you. :smile2:)

All you can do is sit back and smile. It won't change, and most media are the same. I recently heard a 16 year old raving about a new band. Their name? Nirvana. :oo:

it is silly since i like The Birds, Elm Street, Phsycho, Jaws, and a bunch of those old films and i'm 18 and those films i listed came from when my mom and grandma were kids.

[SKfan2006]

to those talking about Rob Zombie's Halloween 2 remember Rob wanted to end it with this film but the studio saw potential so they changed the ending which he didn't want to do. in the end he wanted Myers dead dead dead ut the studio instead made it ambiguous so that there will be a sequel and the only way to have consistency is to have Rob direct it.

[Mr Nobody]

it is silly since i like The Birds, Elm Street, Phsycho, Jaws, and a bunch of those old films and i'm 18 and those films i listed came from when my mom and grandma were kids.

So how does it make you feel when studios seem to be telling you what you need, want or like? Do you feel like a valued customer, or like they are treating you and your mates like chumps who'll turn out to watch anything?
I'm in the wrong demographic group - at 35 (nearly 36), I'm supposed to have 'moved on' (to what, exactly, no one knows).
It's not as though there's a lack of material out there, after all. Hell, SK alone could keep a few studios busy with adaptations of stories, let alone all the other established and new writers out there looking for a chance.

BTW, by Psycho I'm assuming you meant the Hitchcock original? :wink2:

[SKfan2006]

yes i mean the hicthcock film. i give remakes/new adaptions a chance like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory i liked since it was very much the book in film form unlike Willy Wonka which change a few things but is still a good movie on its own. i also saw both Omens and didn't get into either of them.
but sometimes i see a film without knowing it was a remake to begin with like Death Race. i didn't want to see it at first since the trailers didn't catch my eye but when me and my mom went to the movies a few months ago it was the only thing i would watch and i enjoyed and when i got home i learned it was a remake. has that ever happened to any of you?
also the only thing i can't are these new tv show adaptions we're geting now. i liked the Scooby films but i won't see any of the new stuff like Speed Racer, Underdog, or the Chipmunks since they're too different from the ones i grew up with.
but i find Video Game movies to be sad since they have the basic story already lined up to use but the film flops while the game pops. like the Mario movie the struture is princess gets kidnapped by a dinosur so plumber has to go through the land to save princess but the movie failed and yet Tomb Raider poped all because of boobalina.
so in a nutshell for remakes i see the story to see if it's changed enough to actually see it cuase if its the exact same film then i don't want any part of it.

[Nero]

Haha, so a remake of THE BIRDS is in pre production ...

Naomi Watts set to be Melanie Daniels, Martin Campbell (007 Casino Royale) directing, produced by... Michael Bay of Transformers/Bad Boys fame.

Lol this is just going from bad to worse.

[jackson992]

Haha, so a remake of THE BIRDS is in pre production ...

Naomi Watts set to be Melanie Daniels, Martin Campbell (007 Casino Royale) directing, produced by... Michael Bay of Transformers/Bad Boys fame.

Lol this is just going from bad to worse.

well it's got a good cast and is being directed by a top notch director so that is a good sign

[jackson992]

see, now i have to ask, what is it about the remake that makes it so much better to you than the original? because i just don't see it. when the original TCM came out in 1974, there had never been anything like it before and it legitimately terrified people. some people actually ran screaming from theaters! and that's not even mentioning the impact that it had on the entire genre of horror in films. sure, tehy can make it look "cooler" with new high tech special effects, but does that really make the film better? of course movies like the 74 TCM look tame compared to the movies that came after it, and especially to movies like Saw and Hostel (neither of which are better than TCM in my opinion), but for its day it was a terrifying film and i think it still stands up to movies of today, and imo it is still better than the remake.

sorry if it seems like i'm attacking your opinion, i'm really not. we're all allowed to like whatever we want to like, and you're certainly entitled to your opinion. but i'm rather curious to know what makes you think the new TCM is better than the '74 version.

For one thing the story makes much more sense and the characters are a lot more likeable. I cannot even express how much the suicide in the beginning added to the film. And the sheriff is omg phenomenal.

[SKfan2006]

well i'm going to see The Birds and when i see it i'll give you guys a review that's honest unlike those hollywood cads that only focus on the bad parts when it comes to the remake.

[devious1]

For one thing the story makes much more sense and the characters are a lot more likeable. I cannot even express how much the suicide in the beginning added to the film. And the sheriff is omg phenomenal.i don't see how the story in the new TCM makes more sense, since it is pretty much the same story. the story in the original made plenty of sense to me: group of teenagers end up running to a lunatic family led by a maniac with a chainsaw. it's not too complicated. but the new TCM just felt like a run of the mill horror movie to me, there was nothing special about it that separates it from the glut of horror movies out there now, whereas the first TCM is unique because it was the first of its kind. when i first saw TCM when i was younger it scared the hell out of me. i spent most of the time watching the new TCM laughing, because it wasn't scary at all. just like the Halloween remake, they took all the suspense and tension out of the movie and replaced it with a higher body count and more blood and guts.

with all that said however, i think what it comes down to for me is that i'm really a film (and art in general) purist. taking a story and retelling it in your own way is something that has gone on for as long as people have been telling stories. but you don't need to "remake" it. after all you can't reinvent the wheel. King's Salem's Lot is a perfect example of that, he took the classic story of Dracula and put his own spin on it, he made it his own. but what if he had just decided to rewrite the original? what if he just took all the characters and settings from Bram Stoker's novel and just rewrote his own version of the same story? would it be as good? what if i figured that i could paint better than Michelangelo and decided to repaint the Sistine chapel? i think that's what it really comes down to for me. once a piece of art is out there, regardless of what kind of art it is, whether it's perfect or not, whether it could be done better or not, it should just be left alone.

i also feel the same way about revising or re-editing movies, like Star Wars for example. all the changes they made to the film(s) in the 90's, redoing the special F/X and adding some new sequences that were technically impossible or improbable to do back in 1977, all that was fine, but does any of it really make the movie better? it's still the same movie that it was in 1977, it just looks "prettier" now. big deal. but that's just the way i see things i suppose, i imagine a lot of you have radically different opinions on the subject however...

[kisun]

I don't really pay attention to the serial slasher flicks.

But I do like the original Halloweens (1&2) :biggrin2:.

[SKfan2006]

i also feel the same way about revising or re-editing movies, like Star Wars for example. all the changes they made to the film(s) in the 90's, redoing the special F/X and adding some new sequences that were technically impossible or improbable to do back in 1977, all that was fine, but does any of it really make the movie better? it's still the same movie that it was in 1977, it just looks "prettier" now. big deal. but that's just the way i see things i suppose, i imagine a lot of you have radically different opinions on the subject however...

for me it mostly depends on the edit. like in Beauty and the Beast they added a new song which isn't really needed so i don't like it especially how the colors are brighter and fresher. but for Star Wars he wanted to finish the film just like how SK wanted the Stand complete so i feel the updated version is better because it's the real product.

[devious1]

but for Star Wars he wanted to finish the film just like how SK wanted the Stand complete so i feel the updated version is better because it's the real product.but not really though, since the movie was already finished. there was only one sequence that was cut because it was technically impossible to film in 1977, and that is a musical performance that has no bearing on the story whatsoever. other than that they just redid the special effects so they look better. but to me, the effects they did originally looked fine, i didn't need it to look prettier. the difference with The Stand is that his publisher forced him to make the cuts because the book was simply too big (or at least that was the belief at the time) and he wanted people to read the story as it was written. with the cuts edited back in, it almost becomes a whole new book, whereas Star Wars is no different, just nicer looking.

[jackson992]

I love that added musical scene. It adds a lot to the movie adding it in by giving a break from all the action.

[devious1]

well i suppose it comes down to personal preferences. i didn't find that it enhanced the movie in any way, and was completely irrelevant to the plot, and therefore not necessary. it's not like i saw the movie before and thought "this movie is good, but a musical sequence would make it better!" it just wasn't necessary. the movie wasn't improved by that scene being put in imo and had no real use. the fact they couldn't put that scene in the movie originally didn't make the movie worse, and seeing it with the scene in didn't make the movie any better to me.

[HorrorFreak93]

I don't see why hollywood is rebooting our beloved Horror movies?

I mean...

Freddy, Jason and Michael is not that old. Black and white Horror like Count Dracula, Frankenstein and the wolf man should get the reboots/Remakes.

Also In my right mind, I think after when friday the 13th(2009), Halloween 2 (2009) and A Nightmare on Elm Street Remake will be on DVD. Hollywood whould might work on Freddy vs. Jason vs. Michael(If we get lucky ;) )

Last, I heard that the (new)A Nightmare on Elm Street was a Prequel than a remake!

[SKfan2006]

the only scene i heard that was added was the scene with Jabba and Boba in episode 4. and what i meant by finished was that he wanted the film to look like what he wanted it to look and you should be glad that he released the theatrical version with Han shooting first.

[devious1]

Last, I heard that the (new)A Nightmare on Elm Street was a Prequel than a remake!that was a rumor, it has been confirmed as a remake/reboot. they may deal more with the details of how he became Freddy, but it isn't going to be a prequel.

[scotts_girl]

im soooooo sick of these remakes has no one in Hollywood got an imagination anymore:sad:

[Mr Nobody]

Scotts girl: I think that's maybe a bit unfair. I'm sure there are people in Hollywood that do have imagination, but ultimately the accountants and producers who have more of an eye to generating cash than anything else will stand in the way. I've said before that I can't see the point in remaking stuff that is only 20-30 years old - I saw a trailer the other day for a new version of V, which made me groan with despair - but from a financial POV, it makes some kind of sense. Original fans will still have a look to compare. That puts a bum on a seat. Younger people will turn up and see it for the first time.
There's only one way to get away from remakes, and that is to vote with your feet and stay away. Otherwise, with finance drying up all the time, before long all we'll get a pale sequels and remakes pushing a particular political/ecological/theological standpoint.

[Jay77]

Hmm, I liked the Zombie version of Halloween. It made me actually feel both love for Michael and disgust at Michael's psychosis. Which is sort of like putting a clown face on a monster.

Contrasting emotions can create some of the scariest moments in film and literature.

And, I think Elm Street and Friday the 13th could be scarier. Freddy became goofy and Jason became dull. Maybe they will add a new degree of terror to them both. Like, don't put them into view so much. Showing the monster's face and having them wise-cracking dialogue steals the horror away. Maybe they will put them in the dark more.

Anyways, anything can be made better. I think that's the point.

[jackson992]

I can't wait for the new V movie which is not a remake.

I also liked the fact that Freddy was funny. This is why I think the first movie is the weakest in the series.

[scotts_girl]

Scotts girl: I think that's maybe a bit unfair. I'm sure there are people in Hollywood that do have imagination, but ultimately the accountants and producers who have more of an eye to generating cash than anything else will stand in the way. I've said before that I can't see the point in remaking stuff that is only 20-30 years old - I saw a trailer the other day for a new version of V, which made me groan with despair - but from a financial POV, it makes some kind of sense. Original fans will still have a look to compare. That puts a bum on a seat. Younger people will turn up and see it for the first time.
There's only one way to get away from remakes, and that is to vote with your feet and stay away. Otherwise, with finance drying up all the time, before long all we'll get a pale sequels and remakes pushing a particular political/ecological/theological standpoint.

i suppose but some of the best horrors out there are the low budget ones in my opinion because they concentrate more on the stories and not the special effects im just a huge horror fan and although some of the remakes are good i just need something new like when SAW came out great movie but others including m night have really disappointed me

[Kenzie Lou Who]

I get a little too obsessed with things...it used to be with Freddy VS. Jason.


I couldn't imagine a Freddy that wasn't Robert Englund. That's like having a Richard Bachman that's not Stephen King.

[T-Bone]

In the case of TCM I can't even watch the original version any more it is so bad compared to the remake.

The original Texas Chainsaw Massacre came out in 1974, or there abouts. So, yes, it is bad compared to the newer movie.

[devious1]

The original Texas Chainsaw Massacre came out in 1974, or there abouts. So, yes, it is bad compared to the newer movie.well if you view the date of a movie as an indicator of whether it is good or bad, i kinda feel sorry for you :( the date the original TCM came out has no bearing on how good it is, unless you're looking at things like special effects, but in my view, special effects do not make a good movie. the original TCM is better in my view than any remake could ever have been.

[devious1]

Hmm, I liked the Zombie version of Halloween. It made me actually feel both love for Michael and disgust at Michael's psychosis. Which is sort of like putting a clown face on a monster.

Contrasting emotions can create some of the scariest moments in film and literature.

And, I think Elm Street and Friday the 13th could be scarier. Freddy became goofy and Jason became dull. Maybe they will add a new degree of terror to them both. Like, don't put them into view so much. Showing the monster's face and having them wise-cracking dialogue steals the horror away. Maybe they will put them in the dark more.

Anyways, anything can be made better. I think that's the point.but see, that is the thing. i don't want to understand Michael, i don't want to feel sorry for him. i want to fear him. the backstory that they gave him is so cliched anyway, i was abused as a child so that's why i grow up to be a psycho killer? please. it's been done so many times that as soon as i saw that was the direction Rob was taking the movie in, i just tuned it out. and i think Rob himself was confused as to what he wanted to do with Michael. he spent the first half of the movie trying to humanize him, and then in the last half of the movie he makes him an unstoppable monster. you can't have it both ways Rob, either he's human or he's not. you can't spend half of a movie trying to make your character more human then have him getting shot and stabbed multiple times and seeming invulnerable. it just didn't make any sense. but that is just my opinion. i like Rob's films, but this movie was a major misstep imo.

and i also must strongly disagree that "anything can be made better." quite simply, no. some things are fine just the way they are. and simply because something could be made better doesn't always mean it's a good idea to do so. but the way i see it, the more people support these remakes, the more they will keep making them, because to Hollywood, it's not about making great art that will be remembered anymore, it's all about making as much money as they can with as little thought or imagination as possible. i won't support that.

[abominae1]

I enjoyed a lot of the Friday the 13th , and NOES movies. I was not impressed with the commercial for the new Friday the 13th remake, but as a fan of the series , I will watch it.

I wonder how long it will take Hollywood to remake Scream.

Also I agree that without Robert Englund , there is no Freddy [period]

[T-Bone]

well if you view the date of a movie as an indicator of whether it is good or bad, i kinda feel sorry for you :( the date the original TCM came out has no bearing on how good it is, unless you're looking at things like special effects, but in my view, special effects do not make a good movie. the original TCM is better in my view than any remake could ever have been.

That was harsh! :eyebrow:

[SKfan2006]

well there are some films that could be made better depending on who they get. like LOTR before the films we know came there were a handful of animated versions that were lackluster and they made it better than those.
if there's any film that needs to be remade it would have to be Eragon since i can't stand it and i love the books.

[devious1]

That was harsh! :eyebrow:you're right, that was kind of harsh, so i apologize. but i don't believe that the year a movie was made or released should have any bearing on how good it is. i think a lot of people nowadays equate old with bad and new with good, and to me that is kind of sad. a great story is a great story, no matter when it was told. the same should stand for movies as well.

[SKfan2006]

that is true since people like a nice 'clean' look to the film instead of dark and grainy. heck even with video games people would rather have a game that looked like a CGI film than less than pretty graphics.

[T-Bone]

LOTR? What is that?

[devious1]

LOTR = Lord Of The Rings.

[SKfan2006]

LOTR stands for Lord of the Rings.
abominae1 they're making Scream 4 which they're calling a sequel reboot.

[T-Bone]

What does a sequel reboot mean?

[SKfan2006]

well that's what they're calling it. its a sequel but a reboot of the series but i don't know why they call it both since a reboot has nothing to do with the other films. its like calling Batman Begins a sequel to the batman films of the 80's even though its a reboot.

[devious1]

yeah, see a reboot is when they try to restart a series by remaking the first film, like Rob Zombie did with Halloween.

[T-Bone]

Gotcha, SKfan2006.

[boxingwrestler]

I am excited about the Friday the 13th remake, it is being directed by the guy who directed the re make of TX Chainsaw Massacre....

Not thrilled about NOES because Craven is a great director..there's something so campy yet great about this one I don't want to see it remade..

[K HjLL]

I can't wait for NOES since when where our nightmares funny. Huge fan of them all . I hope it's actually scary I'm still waiting for on of the reboots to scare me like the originals did. Freddy could be a real creepy and actually scary.

The Origanl TCM is the bible of all horror film. The greatnest of the film is the way it looks almost like a documentary. The reality of it all. Point and check with The LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFt.

The only thing that bothers me about the friday the 13th. They make the camps look cartooney or comicbooky. While not make them look real like in the first 6. In f vs. J they did that. Maybe it because I've worked at camps. But the orioriganl film seemed real with texture and life. The should have shot it at a actual camp and lake. I'm realy excited to see this film though.

P.S, I haven't seen the film obviously but from the trailers thats my take.

[devious1]

The Original TCM is the bible of all horror film. The greatnest of the film is the way it looks almost like a documentary. The reality of it all. Point and check with The LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFt.finally, someone who sees the original TCM the same way i do!

[Sundrop]

I don't usually like remakes. I probably won't even see F13 or NOES. I'm perfectly happy to keep watching the original versions.

[jackson992]

I will say the new My Bloody Valentine was phenomenal

[demorgan]

In the new Ft!3th trailer. The one thing that i seen that i really liked. Jason running after a victim. As far as remakes in general. I guess i dont care. If they mess it up, they mess it up. Ill always have the orginal to watch. every now and then a remake comes along that irritates me. Karate kid and old boy comes to mind. Ill go watch the new Ft!3th movie because Ill probably be in the mood for some violence at a lake type thing.Seriously, with 13th and Nightmare, what else could they do to the serioes that hasnt been done to screw it up in the first place.On another not, 2 movies stand out in my mind as godfathers of horror(well, 3 now that i think of it).
1) Night of the living dead
2) the exorcist
3) texas chainsaw massacre.

[Jojo87]

I saw Friday13 remake trailer today. Didn't even know that they have made a new F13

[Jesus Jones]

No, not the original Hellraiser!

[Nero]

I'll be going to see the new Friday 13th today, partly for the new perspective on Jason Voorhees and partly to see the new Transformers trailer :)

[consumer]

I can never understand these remakes, a part of me says that Hollywood has finished off the Horror genre, and another part of me says that cant be possible as if you look in the book store theres dozens of willing authors to share there novels for a movie.

[al2phat]

It was crap. I give it an D-.

[RedStiletto]

i'm not that excited about these movies but i'm glad other generations will be able to enjoy the same movies i did when i was younger.

[Vicki]

I guess they were after new fans with the younger generation or something so they redid them.

[Nero]

It was crap. I give it an D-.

Were you looking for award winning material in a Friday the 13th movie?

It's made for suspense and thrills, I thought it did this quite well. They also kept the Jason supernatural mystery alive, which I was afraid they would ruin. He wasn't made into an understandable creation of cruel human circumstance (like Rob Zombie did with Michael Myers) and I was happy about this.

For a Fri 13th movie, I thought it was much more effective than many of its ancestors and was entertaining. It kept the genre alive by making it relevant for today's younger gen. Basically, no bell bottoms, no mullets, no grainy picture.

Nothing more should have been expected :)

[Jojo87]

Was yesterday and watch Friday 13th on movie theater. It was a great movie. Better than Halloween remake.

[Katniss]

When I went to see the Friday the 13th remake I wasn't too happy about it. I mean the movie was good, but like all later horror movies, etc, it lacks the essence of scariness in my point of view. I wish I could remember the name of the movie that I saw that made me scared to the point of belief but I can't. I wish they made better movies about what it's truly like to be scared instead of having a person know by the music that something "scary" is going to happen. As for a remake of the Nightmare On Elm Street, I'm a little excited to see it. I know Johnny Depp was in the original which I loved that movie, but I'm not sure who has been cast this come around. It seems to me that movies now a days are based on older movies that "need" a remake. But I am a huge fan of the Saw series which has one coming out basically every year, I think it's the sixth this year. Oh well can't always please everyone. :)

[K HjLL]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/40554

I feel like knowles Character in the upper left corner. right now. Can't wait.

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2009/04/nightmare-haley.html?cid=152035607#comment-152035607

Wish I could request Dream on by Aerosmith for the End credits. The Billy Idiol from four was classic.

Khjll1098@yahoo.com Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 01:49 AM EST


1 last thing I was finishing concrete at the Hilton in Fargo and realized. Pulling a power troll across concrete with rock and sand on it make the perfect sound for the glove screeching across anything metal pipes what have you, The perfect sound of knives screeching across the boiler room walls or anything for that matter.

1 more thing I believe every town has an elm street of some sort. In some way shape or form. Suicides and car crashes.


khjll1098@yahoo.com Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 01:25 AM EST


I am the perfect solution to hollywoods writers blocker or any writer that needs help. Give me a question. I will always listen and have any answer.


khjll1098@yahoo.com Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 01:22 AM EST


What is a dream! A memory, a thought , or is it another high your body wants you to see and experience.

I see life in a different perspective, but I live life with a reflective perspective to see is not to realize but to experience is to visualize, only when you see will you really be, one with yourself and see others perspective.

or

An escape from reality is just an unwanted encounter with what you were originally try'n to escape from.

This fact is not unfortunate but what makes the matter worse is this encounter is always fought with your mind in a vulnerable and near defenseless stat. Therefore, logically. The most effective way to win the fight using a clear head. Other wise reality is always the victor.



Khjll1098@yahoo.com Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 01:21 AM EST


My father always told me to pay he back when I was famous. I always thought A nightmar on Elm street or Friday the 13th was going to be me kicking the door wide open. Contact anyone who knows me or new me the dancers, G, Scott, my family and freinds they will all tell you I'm a film junky. You have to make all the death look like suicides.


K hjll1098@yahoo.com Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 01:09 AM EST


I would do anything. I rub concrete for a living. I use to line the boxes up an just stare at them. Thinking that all my fears were concord in a box. You could wrap up the franchise in a sequel or you can explore. I've been dreaming for 20 years now. I have lots of ideas for sequels. I felt like i was living A nightmare for awhile when people in my school were dying left and right. Always seemed to soon and early for such great people.


Khjll1098@yahoo.com Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 01:00 AM EST


I grew up in A nightmare on Elm Street. 5 of my close friend were taking from me and the world in high school in high school.
Maybe the sequel should be called Night Terrors. Jackie Earle Haley is the perfect casting call for Freddy. I was going to boycott this film until I heard the great news.

Just wish Wes has a little say in it all. He Is the one that had the Nightmares. My second wish to Dune and Hollywood is to have a part in the film or to put any sweet i can into this film I know I could help.

This film bleeds K Hjll. I could drive to the chi in a heartbeat.

This casting call got the hair on my neck to stand up. Haley you know this already but you were brilliant in Watchmen.You set the moore tone. If not for you the film would have fallen apart. Every great film or story has its narrator whether its the Godfather or Natural Born Killers you gotta have a narrator. Reservoir dogs is a great example but that had more then one hence the point of a great great narrator. Or 2

I could never Boycott a film. I like movies to much.

[Tooley]

I'm split on the new Friday the 13th flick. I enjoyed it. Yet, I could have told you beforehand who died next and what was going to happen. It just seemed too damned predictable. Not to mention it really felt like Jason was holding back - killing wise. The deaths were less graphic and I was just waiting for ONE, just ONE over the top death, but it never really happened. But, I did get everything I expected from the movie - blood, sex and entertainment. So why am I complaining?