Women only

[arista]

Yes, for pity's sake..guys and gals too..get pedicure..best money spent..if you are going to wear sandals..

[Dana Jean]

I think what my sister wanted to post was this....
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i254/LatinBeauty813/Fritos.jpg[/IMG]]

Aw hell no! See, I have a real issue with this. :oo:

And that pedicure stuff goes for men too! Dammit, don't be coming anywhere near me with gross feet.

[Anni M]

Weren't eating Fritos were you, Ms. Mod?
HAHAHAHAHAHA!! :biggrin2:

[Anni M]

I think what my sister wanted to post was this....
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i254/LatinBeauty813/Fritos.jpg[/IMG]]

Oh my god, this is simply horrifying :eek2:
I'll never eat Fritos again... :barf: or Doritos, for that matter.

You make Doritos by wearing wool socks for long periods of time...

[Sundrop]

I wouldn't touch those toes with a 10 foot pole!! :eek2:

[arista]

Another topic...Don't you just love it when men send you flowers for no reason at all..I love flowers..

[TBlack]

You could grow flowers between those toes!!!

[TBlack]

& there's little nooks & crannies to hold the butter!
Just like Thomas's English Muffins!
(I think I just effed up Ms.Mod's breakfast!!!) :sad:

[Moderator]

And my lunch! :barf:

[Todash]

& there's little nooks & crannies to hold the butter!
Just like Thomas's English Muffins!
(I think I just effed up Ms.Mod's breakfast!!!) :sad:
I LOVE Thomas's English Muffins. That was so gross.

Wait ... I still love Thomas's English Muffins. You can't put me off my food that easily.

[arista]

Oh my god, this is simply horrifying :eek2:
I'll never eat Fritos again... :barf: or Doritos, for that matter.

You make Doritos by wearing wool socks for long periods of time...

really eWWW

[mudpuppy]

I wish I could view that pic! As for feet, mine are not that cute. I've just got funky toes. #2 toe is shaped like Frankenstein's head. #5 is shaped like a wedge. I would love to have pretty feet, but it does not seem meant to be. :sad:

[TBlack]

I LOVE Thomas's English Muffins. That was so gross.

Wait ... I still love Thomas's English Muffins. You can't put me off my food that easily.
Ya really put your foot in your mouth there Toedash!

[Todash]

I wish I could view that pic! :sad:

No. Not really. You don't.

[Kim L.]

Yeah, feet not so great. Ankles, now...I love to show those off.

[Jax]

I think what my sister wanted to post was this....
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i254/LatinBeauty813/Fritos.jpg[/IMG]]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:That is so nasty and gross, but for some reason I find it really, really funny!

[LadyPain]

I've got good feet. I rarely wear heels of any kind and for years I lived in Birkenstocks and very good cross trainers, so no bunions or anything. I wear sandals year round, sometimes even in snowy weather. Foot fetishists like the peds.

And... I will never be able to eat corn chips again. Ever. :barf:

[Cowboy]

I wish I could view that pic! As for feet, mine are not that cute. I've just got funky toes. #2 toe is shaped like Frankenstein's head. #5 is shaped like a wedge. I would love to have pretty feet, but it does not seem meant to be. :sad:

That's Hott!:smile2:

[Anni M]

They say that if your second toe in is long than your big toe, it means you're really bright. I must be a damn genius!!:oo:

I do not know who THEY are. :biggrin2:

[Anni M]

Ya really put your foot in your mouth there Toedash! TOE-dash... LMAO!!! :laugh:
Todash has a new name! :biggrin2:

[Todash]

We are not amused.

All right, fine, we're a little amused.

[Anni M]

we :love: ya Todash!:love:

[mudpuppy]

They say that if your second toe in is long than your big toe, it means you're really bright. I must be a damn genius!!:oo:

I do not know who THEY are. :biggrin2:

My second toes are shorter! WAH! :sad: I've got simpering idjot toes! I'm going to go sit on the village wall and wear a hankie on my head.

*exits to the sad Charlie Brown music*

[arista]

I have to admit..men who wear sandals and their toes look gross make me want to get a nail file and files those bad boys. However, men who have their toes looking half way decent..well..(blushes) makes me smile.

[TBlack]

TOE-dash... LMAO!!! :laugh:
Todash has a new name! :biggrin2:
She was gunna be Mrs. Dash cuz she likes lotts of flavor without the added sodium but then she found that secret "Jus' da Rite Spice" additive.... it was in dat foot back there! Sometimes ya just gotta roll with the fungusamongus.

[Cerralin]

I just wish people would stop quoting the picture, just when you think it can't get any worse.... it does :)

[Sundrop]

They say that if your second toe in is long than your big toe, it means you're really bright. I must be a damn genius!!:oo:

I do not know who THEY are. :biggrin2:

So, what does it mean if the second toes are longer, but are webbed to the third toes? :oo:

[Theregulator]

So, what does it mean if the second toes are longer, but are webbed to the third toes? :oo:

Not only are you really clever but you are irresistable to Patrick Duffy and can swim really well.

[Cerralin]

Not only are you really clever but you are irresistable to Patrick Duffy and can swim really well.

:rofl:

[lsparrow]

what about men who wear socks with sandals mmm sexy ..not

[pandora]

***eating Frittoes, thinking about posting***

[AnneFromNJ]

Men are hopeless,they think they are very tough and macho and know the answer to everything,but the truth is that they know jackshit.

I have yet to meet a man who is not a moron in the household. And I have yet to meet a woman who will tell me the opposite....

Men always want solutions to every problem. Don't they know woman only want a shoulder or at least a listening ear??

Men see things in a small box,woman see them in a round room...

My boyfriend mopped my old apartment (all hardwood floors) With Pledge Orange Oil. It looked gorgeous, from a distance but we could have broken our necks! I appreciated the effort, but pointed out the DO NOT USE ON HARDWOOD FLOORS printed right on the label.

[pandora]

I think we should have a party in here!!!! Let's all bring something and light the fire. Autumnlyn.......bring that hot piece of coal and lets us have a clan bash!!!
http://images.clipartof.com/small/35375-Clipart-Illustration-Of-A-Black-Silhouetted-Crowd-Having-Fun-Under-Confetti-And-Party-Balloons.jpg

...............I'll get the music!!!...................................

[RebeccaS]

Men are hopeless,they think they are very tough and macho and know the answer to everything,but the truth is that they know jackshit.

I have yet to meet a man who is not a moron in the household. And I have yet to meet a woman who will tell me the opposite....

Men always want solutions to every problem. Don't they know woman only want a shoulder or at least a listening ear??

Men see things in a small box,woman see them in a round room...

That post got to me I must admit. I was once bitter, estranged, anxious, and self-centered... to the point where I focused intently on changing the man vs. changing myself. The fact my husband didn't do dishes, take out the garbage, change the diapers, or cook fancy meals used to annoy me. The fact he'd sit at his computer coding websites all night and sleep all day irked the crap out of me. He rarely showed affection in public, and rarely ever bought me flowers or left me love notes. Hell... he was imperfect in almost everything (as I throw in an impertinent sarcastic gasp here).

Now, 13 years later, I realize that which I am truly grateful for. However, allow me to reiterate a previous point I made... I changed myself, not him. I'm not saying I had anything wrong with me but I learned that through changing little quirks about myself, he changed right along with me and he didn't even know it.

Now we are happy and content because I don't expect anything from him, and he does not expect anything from me. We are equals... friends... compadres... pals. We can discuss (and often do discuss) everything from religion, politics, and on down the list. We can debate and not get pissed, we can burn each others dinner and just not care. Hell, we can fart in each others presence and laugh at each other about it and move on like nothing happened. :biggrin2:

Throughout the years I've learned that it is not and never has been about me. Ok yeah, there are perks. Like, we watch movies together and cuddle occasionally. When we have the money (rarely) we go out for a burger together without the kids. But let me tell you what holds this relationship firm, tight, and solid. He's my FRIEND. And I expect NOTHING of him. That way when he surprises me, I'm floored... astonished... nothing less than amazed and extremely happy.

Not that my advice is wanted, nor is it needed... I learned that my relationship with my husband is based on an entirely non-selfish, non-egotistical, totally healthy relationship where NEED is not the issue. I don't need him, and he does not need me. It's about want, equality, trust, ultimate respect, and companionship. I even hesitate to say love because love is nothing but a word.

[RebeccaS]

I have to admit..men who wear sandals and their toes look gross make me want to get a nail file and files those bad boys. However, men who have their toes looking half way decent..well..(blushes) makes me smile.

I liken men who wear sandals with disgusting toes to a speedo... :eyebrow:

[Sundrop]

Not only are you really clever but you are irresistable to Patrick Duffy and can swim really well.

Whooo Hooo!! Someone call Patrick Duffy, and tell him to meet me in the pool!!:biggrin2:

[arista]

I liken men who wear sandals with disgusting toes to a speedo... :eyebrow:

OR with the attractive black socks and sandals..WOO HOO

[pandora]

Who's this Patrick Duffy. Momma needs a pic!!!

[RandomMan]

I think we should have a party in here!!!! Let's all bring something and light the fire. Autumnlyn.......bring that hot piece of coal and lets us have a clan bash!!!
http://images.clipartof.com/small/35375-Clipart-Illustration-Of-A-Black-Silhouetted-Crowd-Having-Fun-Under-Confetti-And-Party-Balloons.jpg

...............I'll get the music!!!...................................

did someone say...partay?

[Jax]

Who's this Patrick Duffy. Momma needs a pic!!!

http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Imported/BioPix/Mi/bio01/patrick-duffy1.jpg

He played Bobby on Dallas.

[Sundrop]

Who's this Patrick Duffy. Momma needs a pic!!!

He's an actor. Here's a pic

http://www.ultimatedallas.com/dallasnews/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/patbio.gif

Can I keep him, mama? Pleeeaaase :)

[Kim L.]

Who's this Patrick Duffy. Momma needs a pic!!!

Here he is when he was playng Bobby on Dallas. He's a wee bit older now.

http://es.geocities.com/mundodallas/DALLASLASERIE/STARS/BOBBY7.jpg

[Cowboy]

Who's this Patrick Duffy. Momma needs a pic!!!

Bobby Ewing (Dallas)....brother of JR. and a bit of pansie, Man From Atlantis, Step by Step (Dad)....Frank something or another. In Man From Atlantis, he was kind of an Aqua-Man type feller.

[smjohn]

Who's this Patrick Duffy. Momma needs a pic!!!

You crack me up:) Think Dallas....

[pandora]

He's an actor. Here's a pic

http://www.ultimatedallas.com/dallasnews/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/patbio.gif

Can I keep him, mama? Pleeeaaase :)

Yes sweety! You can keep him as long as you pick up after him.

[pandora]

Okay, grab P. Duffy and a "tube"!!!! Follow me!!!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEE

http://www.sogonow.com/archives/cave%20tubers.jpg

[Todash]

My boyfriend mopped my old apartment (all hardwood floors) With Pledge Orange Oil. It looked gorgeous, from a distance but we could have broken our necks! I appreciated the effort, but pointed out the DO NOT USE ON HARDWOOD FLOORS printed right on the label.
I have to share this. When I was 18, I lived with my 26-year-old brother for a while. One day, I decided to really make the hardwood floors in the upstairs SHINE. So I, um, Pledged them. Yes, on my hands and knees, with a rag, I wiped Pledge onto every square inch of a big sitting area and four bedrooms. I then got up, started walking to the closet to put away the Pledge, and realized my one small, slick miscalculation. :blush:

[arista]

Okay, grab P. Duffy and a "tube"!!!! Follow me!!!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEE

http://www.sogonow.com/archives/cave%20tubers.jpg

Count me in...No one pee in the intertube please!! LOL:biggrin2:

[EMARX]

Is this safe? Women Only and The Man Cave are side by side. What will happen to the threads. OH MY GOD!

[poisonbat]

Okay, grab P. Duffy and a "tube"!!!! Follow me!!!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEE

http://www.sogonow.com/archives/cave%20tubers.jpg

OMG I love going tubing. When I lived in Blythe I used to tube all the time down the Colorado river. I have also tubed down the Verde River. Oh the memories of the sunburns...:eek2: But yeah, count me in :love::bat:

[JohnDalglish]

In Man From Atlantis, he was kind of an Aqua-Man type feller.

Hi,

Yes, he was a hit with all the gills.

Long days and pleasant nights

[Cowboy]

Can I help out with the Patrick Duffy pics?
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t218/cowboybum/man_from_atlantis_novel_set.jpg
And one more so that maybe we know the dead horse has been beat enough...
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t218/cowboybum/manfromatlantis.jpg
I showed him how to flip his head and make the water do that in his pictures.

[Sundrop]

Nice pics, Cowboy. Since you obviously taught Patrick Duffy a thing or two, you're welcome to join our pool party---just leave your boots on the deck :)

[boogerb53]

Sooooo, who likes shopping?!

[Kim L.]

OMG I love going tubing. When I lived in Blythe I used to tube all the time down the Colorado river. I have also tubed down the Verde River. Oh the memories of the sunburns...:eek2: But yeah, count me in :love::bat:

Me too.

[Cowboy]

Sooooo, who likes shopping?!

Alright, I'm leaving now.

[mudpuppy]

Sooooo, who likes shopping?!

J'adore shopping!

[arista]

love it!! Do I get to do it much..no..but love it~

[Sundrop]

Sooooo, who likes shopping?!

I like shopping as long as I have plenty of money to spend, which is not often. A group of my friends get together the day after Thanksgiving and make a day of it. They start at 5:00 am---I usually join them when they take a break for breakfast about 9:30 am. :)

[elevelyn]

I hate shopping! whenever i have money there is never anything i want and when im broke i see loads i want, i hate having to try on clothes, my hair always gets messed up!

[boogerb53]

Ugh! I hate Black Friday! People are mean! I like to shop when no one else is around. I don't want to have to beat someone up over the last pair of red pumps!

[arista]

I would like to discuss the fraility of pantyhose. I hardly ever wear them..but I have an interview with important client today..They are expensive and easily run..Who invented this concept? I bet it was someone with the LEGGS company.

[JohnDalglish]

I don't want to have to beat someone up over the last pair of red pumps!

Hi,

But if that's what it takes......LOL

Long days and pleasant nights

[smjohn]

I would like to discuss the fraility of pantyhose. I hardly ever wear them..but I have an interview with important client today..They are expensive and easily run..Who invented this concept? I bet it was someone with the LEGGS company.

I'm pretty sure it was a man, too:glare:

[JohnDalglish]

I'm pretty sure it was a man, too:glare:

Hi,

Well, if it was, he was a traitor to his gender.

Most men prefer stockings, in my experience.

Long days and pleasant nights

[sueb84]

My hubby is always amazed at the expense I can incur when stepping into a drugstore for a few necessities. He no longer comments on it, however, after I went off on a tangent about the correlation between the average woman's salary and the items that she is obligated to purchase to remain relevant in professional circles. And let's not just shrug it off, a large number of employers require their female employees (not just those in middle and upper management) to dress accordingly. That means from feet (at least 5 pairs of shoes), legs (pantyhose/tights/slacks/skirts) body (blouses/sweaters/jackets) face (makeup) and hair. And of course those items change throughout the season and their reliability or shelf life such as pantyhose means they frequently require replacement which means more expense. You then have the average male salary which if I recall is on average 20 - 35% more and their personal requirements - 2/3 pairs of shoes, a few suits, a razor and or razor blades, and a good hair cut. :glare:

so, you can probably guess that I have had more than one discussion about the lopsided scale. And additionally, gotta say, not much of a fan of shopping as a result.

[Sundrop]

Ugh! I hate Black Friday! People are mean! I like to shop when no one else is around. I don't want to have to beat someone up over the last pair of red pumps!

I don't actually shop on Black Friday---It's a really good people watching day! LOL :biggrin2:

[DelvianBlue]

I would like to discuss the fraility of pantyhose. I hardly ever wear them..but I have an interview with important client today..They are expensive and easily run..Who invented this concept? I bet it was someone with the LEGGS company.

I put those right up there with high heels. If they were so great, men would still be wearing them.

[Dana Jean]

You didn't lose the boat, did you? I told you to hide behind the beaver dam!:glare::biggrin2:


http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t218/cowboybum/manfromatlantis.jpg



Cowboy said: I showed him how to flip his head and make the water do that in his pictures.

[MrsSmeej]

I put those right up there with high heels. If they were so great, men would still be wearing them.

:biggrin2: I'm pretty sure that Joe Namath made every other man feel insecure in the things. :wink2: He did have a great set of gams in his day, though.

As for the more expensive and extensive wardrobe required by women... That's before you even get to the dry cleaners where they charge almost twice as much for women's clothing as they do for men's.

[arista]

I put those right up there with high heels. If they were so great, men would still be wearing them.

Men like women to wear high heels because it makes their boobages stick out and they walk off balance.

[LadyPain]

:biggrin2: I'm pretty sure that Joe Namath made every other man feel insecure in the things. :wink2: He did have a great set of gams in his day, though.

As for the more expensive and extensive wardrobe required by women... That's before you even get to the dry cleaners where they charge almost twice as much for women's clothing as they do for men's.

I used to work in a dry cleaner shop years ago. I could press a man's dress shirt in two minutes flat. The average woman's blouse took 5 to 10 minutes. There's a reason they charge more.

[arista]

I would like to discuss women's fashion. Especially, in light of spring time. Capri pants are cute. The flowing tops are cute too. However, if you are going to wear spandex, make sure that the flesh all fits in there. Personally, I think Spandex needs to have a weight limit.

[TBlack]

I just wish people would stop quoting the picture, just when you think it can't get any worse.... it does :)
http://www.stephenking.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=596&d=1242220881

[poisonbat]

I am not all that in to fashion. But I have found since losing so much weight that I do not have many clothes to wear anymore. I went looking for clothes, 8's are too big, 6's too snug, what ever happened to size 7???? It was there when I was in high school, but now, well it is like they never had a size 3, 5 or 7. They are all even numbers:glare: :bat:

[phidgt]

I don't have a huge problem with high heel shoes - granted I also don't wear them very often. My question is how in the heck do women walk around in those super pointy heels? They look soooo uncomfortable.

[Jax]

However, if you are going to wear spandex, make sure that the flesh all fits in there.

:rofl:No doubt. Sad that it needs to be said.:rofl:

[rjt65]

Egads--when i was like 17-19 in summer i would supplement my job with helping out a friend at a cleaners...

after partying everynight than going into the cleaners and smelling the cleaning fluid man that stuff was -- a head knocker!!! ;-)




I used to work in a dry cleaner shop years ago. I could press a man's dress shirt in two minutes flat. The average woman's blouse took 5 to 10 minutes. There's a reason they charge more.

[Kim L.]

if you are going to wear spandex, make sure that the flesh all fits in there. Personally, I think Spandex needs to have a weight limit.

I agree. You can only require so much of a fabric before it gives up.

[Kim L.]

I am not all that in to fashion. But I have found since losing so much weight that I do not have many clothes to wear anymore. I went looking for clothes, 8's are too big, 6's too snug, what ever happened to size 7???? It was there when I was in high school, but now, well it is like they never had a size 3, 5 or 7. They are all even numbers:glare: :bat:

The odd numbers are junior sizes; you can find them in the section of the store where the music's cranked up and teenagers with pierced noses are complaining about their boyfriends.

[Jax]

I agree. You can only require so much of a fabric before it gives up.

:laugh::rofl:

[Jax]

I don't have a huge problem with high heel shoes - granted I also don't wear them very often. My question is how in the heck do women walk around in those super pointy heels? They look soooo uncomfortable.

I agree. My cousin wears stilettos all the time. Always. When she doesn't have those on she is wearing a boot that has about a 3-4 inch heel. I'd trip and break my damn neck.:laugh: But, I'm a bit on the clumsy side, I can trip over my own feet. Good thing in my profession I can wear comfy Nike's or the water-proof, rubber clogs. I'd be sh*t outta luck if I worked in an office and had to wear them all the time.:laugh:

[arista]

The odd numbers are junior sizes; you can find them in the section of the store where the music's cranked up and teenagers with pierced noses are complaining about their boyfriends.

YEs, that would be fact..Used to work in clothing store and could tell juniors from Misses due to the even's were misses and odds were juniors.

[poisonbat]

YEs, that would be fact..Used to work in clothing store and could tell juniors from Misses due to the even's were misses and odds were juniors.


The odd numbers are junior sizes; you can find them in the section of the store where the music's cranked up and teenagers with pierced noses are complaining about their boyfriends.

Thank you for clearing this up. Hmm does that mean I have to pierce my nose and wear earplugs to buy these??? :laugh::bat:

[JohnDalglish]

odds were juniors.

Hi,

And ain't dat de troof? LOL

Long days and pleasant nights

[Kim L.]

Thank you for clearing this up. Hmm does that mean I have to pierce my nose and wear earplugs to buy these??? :laugh::bat:

No, just slouch and look bored. Texting would also help.

[Anni M]

Men like women to wear high heels because it makes their boobages stick out and they walk off balance.
I knew a women who never got out of heels--wore them 24/7 and her calf muscles atrophied!!! :eek2: Wow

[mudpuppy]

Hola women. Just wanted to check in and tell you that I am knocked up. About 8 weeks. First time. Age 41. I feel so sick. I can't play my regular word games because my creativity seems to be dried up. Ug. Keep you fingers crossed for me, please!

[poisonbat]

Hola women. Just wanted to check in and tell you that I am knocked up. About 8 weeks. First time. Age 41. I feel so sick. I can't play my regular word games because my creativity seems to be dried up. Ug. Keep you fingers crossed for me, please!

Congratulations !!!!:laugh::laugh: You will feel better as the months go by. What a wonderful blessing. I am so very happy for you. :bat:

[JohnDalglish]

Hola women. Just wanted to check in and tell you that I am knocked up. About 8 weeks. First time. Age 41. I feel so sick. I can't play my regular word games because my creativity seems to be dried up. Ug. Keep you fingers crossed for me, please!

Hi,

Well, that's wonderful news, many congrats!

Here's to an easy pregnancy (should there be such a thing!), and a very merry Xmas.

Long days and pleasant nights

[SueC]

Hola women. Just wanted to check in and tell you that I am knocked up. About 8 weeks. First time. Age 41. I feel so sick. I can't play my regular word games because my creativity seems to be dried up. Ug. Keep you fingers crossed for me, please!

What wonderful news! Congratulations and good luck with your pregnancy. xxx

[mudpuppy]

Oh man, thanks for your congratulations everyone! You've made me feel so good. You guys are the very best, hands down, the best.

[LadyPain]

Hola women. Just wanted to check in and tell you that I am knocked up. About 8 weeks. First time. Age 41. I feel so sick. I can't play my regular word games because my creativity seems to be dried up. Ug. Keep you fingers crossed for me, please!

Use peppermint within reason for the nausea, hon. Don't overdo it since it is related to pennyroyal, which is an abortificant. Ginger tea may help as well.

What does your doc say about this? At 41, things get risky. Are you planning to go through with the pregnancy?

Wow... that has to be one hell of a life adjustment.

*makes mental note to check expiry dates on all contraceptive products in the bedroom...*

[Kim L.]

Hola women. Just wanted to check in and tell you that I am knocked up. About 8 weeks. First time. Age 41. I feel so sick. I can't play my regular word games because my creativity seems to be dried up. Ug. Keep you fingers crossed for me, please!

Congratulations!! :smile2: You'll start to feel better soon. Fingers, toes & eyes crossed for you.

[arista]

Congratulations!! WOW!! I am so happy for your new bundle of joy.

[Spideyman]

Mudpuppy that is wonderful news. Congrats! Flat ginger ale and crackers- old remedy and it works.

[rose key]

Mudpuppy, Congratulations!!! Don't worry, it's not your creativity that has dried up; it's your concentration. You have NONE when you're preggers. So many things are going on with your body, and so many things going on in your mind, you just can't think. Short-term memory loss is common, too because of it.
I had my son when I was 41. He was my second, and he was a surprise! He's nine now, and he's a beautiful, healthy, smart happy kid.
My doctor recommended I do an amniocentisis (I know I spelled that wrong) to check for certain genetic defects related to my "advanced" age! I'm sure your doctor will, too. Just don't let them scare you. It's a routine test.

[mudpuppy]

Use peppermint within reason for the nausea, hon. Don't overdo it since it is related to pennyroyal, which is an abortificant. Ginger tea may help as well.

What does your doc say about this? At 41, things get risky. Are you planning to go through with the pregnancy?

Wow... that has to be one hell of a life adjustment.

*makes mental note to check expiry dates on all contraceptive products in the bedroom...*

Oh yes, I'm going through with it, whatever happens. I was reading about the risks and I had to stop, its too frightening. All I can do is pray for the best.

I'm just hoping the let me have a cesarian (sp?). I've got a bulging disc in my neck, plus my age, I hope they let me go that way.

You're right, its scary. I felt like that comic where the lady says "Oh no! I forgot to have children!" I just couldn't find the "right" mate, didn't want to commit. Finally the husband and I got hitched when I was 39. So yeah, I'm way behind in the reproduction department. I pray all goes well, and that we escape all of the possible problems. but the husband agrees: come what may.

And as far as life change goes, I'm ready for it. All of these years its only been about me. It will be nice to live for someone else, to put someone else first.

[Charms7]

Oh yes, I'm going through with it, whatever happens. I was reading about the risks and I had to stop, its too frightening. All I can do is pray for the best.

I'm just hoping the let me have a cesarian (sp?). I've got a bulging disc in my neck, plus my age, I hope they let me go that way.

You're right, its scary. I felt like that comic where the lady says "Oh no! I forgot to have children!" I just couldn't find the "right" mate, didn't want to commit. Finally the husband and I got hitched when I was 39. So yeah, I'm way behind in the reproduction department. I pray all goes well, and that we escape all of the possible problems. but the husband agrees: come what may.

And as far as life change goes, I'm ready for it. All of these years its only been about me. It will be nice to live for someone else, to put someone else first.

There are many folks praying for you, mudpuppy! May all go smoothly for you and your family. Oh, and soda crackers helped me the most with morning sickness. I kept them by my bedside and didn't even get up in the morning before munching on a few crackers.

[Natjen26]

Congratulations Mudpuppy!!!!!!!!! I hope all goes well.. :grinning:

[arista]

Does any other female feel like an idiot, when you take your vehicle in for work and not sure if they are overcharging you or not. I have to do this stuff on my own and even went for second estimate. Maybe should go for third estimate.

[smjohn]

Does any other female feel like an idiot, when you take your vehicle in for work and not sure if they are overcharging you or not. I have to do this stuff on my own and even went for second estimate. Maybe should go for third estimate.

Whenever I have to buy a car or have one worked on by a shop, I always take a man with me. I do the deal myself, but the man with me wears a body shop shirt so they think he knows...

[Perse Jr.]

Wonderful news Mudpuppy! Salty foods worked great for the nausea for me. Someone mentioned ginger ale and crackers earlier; that definitely helps, and I found pickles (particularly garlic ones...Claussen pickles) and green olives helped my nausea and upset stomach. AND, it's an old wives tale, I'm sure, but "they" say the sicker you are, the more likely it's a girl!

[Cowboy]

Does any other female feel like an idiot, when you take your vehicle in for work and not sure if they are overcharging you or not. I have to do this stuff on my own and even went for second estimate. Maybe should go for third estimate.

"Hey little lady, let me help with that there.....car stuff" :grinning:

[LadyPain]

Does any other female feel like an idiot, when you take your vehicle in for work and not sure if they are overcharging you or not. I have to do this stuff on my own and even went for second estimate. Maybe should go for third estimate.

Get a male friend to go with you for the estimate. Or a brother. Might help.

[Emdee]

Congrats!! My mum gave birth to my twin brothers when she was 41 and me when she was 47, and all of us turned out to be in perfect health (so 41 is not to late) :)

[boogerb53]

Does any other female feel like an idiot, when you take your vehicle in for work and not sure if they are overcharging you or not. I have to do this stuff on my own and even went for second estimate. Maybe should go for third estimate.

I HATE to take my vehicle into a new place. I have a girlfriend I worked with for many years. Her husband now has a shop. He is the only one I have ever trusted. Before, I have always felt like they "saw me coming"!

[Queen Judia]

I try to make my boyfriend really smile at least once a day, can't really bitch about him cause he does nothing wrong..... which does annoy me sometimes

i have alot of things on my mind at the mo that i cant really talk to anyone about, my mother is really sick, she has emphysema and finds things really hard right now and theres nobody there to help her, its just her and my baby sister in her house and none of the rest of my family really cares how she is except me (long story), so im always fighting with guilt because i dont help or visit as much as i can, i hate my job but cant quit, also have to find somewhere new to live,

Sorry if im boring the readers of this but feel better now i've let some of it out

God bless you dear. :grinning:

[pandora]

Hola women. Just wanted to check in and tell you that I am knocked up. About 8 weeks. First time. Age 41. I feel so sick. I can't play my regular word games because my creativity seems to be dried up. Ug. Keep you fingers crossed for me, please!

Mudpuppy-
I am so happy to hear that your pregnant!!!!!!! Kids make your life so real and full !!!! I would have had a litter of them if I could have !!!! Enjoy every minute of the pregnancy too!!!!! It is incredible !!!!
Are you going to find out if your having a girl or boy before you deliver? I know most people do, so that they can be prepared. But please think about it hard, because that moment when the doctor says," IT'S A......................" is the ultimate !! I think you should get one of those comp. books that we used to use in school and start a "diary" for your little dream. Don't wait for the baby book! I did that with my daughter and she's got about 10 of them, and I still write in them now. I figure I will give them to her when she starts her family.

[poisonbat]

Does any other female feel like an idiot, when you take your vehicle in for work and not sure if they are overcharging you or not. I have to do this stuff on my own and even went for second estimate. Maybe should go for third estimate.

Unfortunately this does happen. My daddy taught me about cars when I was young, he never wanted me to be the "cute little blonde" broke down by the road.:laugh: But I have still had people try to take advantage of me. I took my son's car to what should have been a reputable station. They called me about an hour later stating that his breaks had gone out. Mind you I drove the car there and the brakes were fine. All I wanted was a couple of tires. Well, my husband came home as all of this started to go down, and he was furious. When we got the car home, the brakes had been cut intentionally.:eek2: I took pictures and estimates back to this shop with the threat of suing them and they paid for the parts and my husband fixed what they had damaged. Needless to say, we never go to that tire store anymore. (Goodyear) So Yeah be careful and get as many estimates as you can, you may just find one that is honest. :bat:

[JohnDalglish]

Hi,

I think it's very sad that this attitude (about cars) still persists to this day.

I've never understood why the possession of testicles and defective chronosomes should automatically be assumed to make you an expert on all things connected with the infernal combustion engine.

Mind you, my personal expertise only extends as far as kicking the tyres and grunting.

Long days and pleasant nights

[Roseasharn]

I'm not sure if this is where to post this, but I'm in need of some support and I'm hoping I might find some here.

I'm exhausted. I went to work 3 weeks after my daughter was born two years ago and haven't had much more than a 3 and 1/2 day weekend since. My husband has been seriously injured not once but twice since she was born so most of the childcare/housework responsibilities fall on me. He does what he can to help, but honestly, it isn't that much. I feel like I'm going to peices and I can't get a grip on things. How do you do it? How does anyone? I mean, I feel like a freakin whiner because I know that being a mom is a full time job and that's just the way it is. My daughter is watched by family members during the week while I'm at work so nobody wants to take her on a weekend and I hate even asking because I'm so blessed that I don't have to put her in daycare.
My step kids are coming out for the summer in a few weeks and I want so badly to be excited about it, but all I can think is that its more stress and I don't know if I can take anymore stress. I love my step kids, and so I feel horribly guilty thinking of it that way.
In fact, I feel horribly guilty about complaining at all about my situation. I have steady work where so many people don't. I have a healthy child. I have a good family.
The only thing I don't seem to have is the time and space to recharge.
How do you do it? What do you do? Am I just a whiner? Honestly, am I? Is this normal?

[JohnDalglish]

Hi,

Sorry to hear it, Rose.

((((Roseasharn)))))

Long days and pleasant nights

[boogerb53]

Hi,

I think it's very sad that this attitude (about cars) still persists to this day.

I've never understood why the possession of testicles and defective chronosomes should automatically be assumed to make you an expert on all things connected with the infernal combustion engine.

Mind you, my personal expertise only extends as far as kicking the tyres and grunting.

Long days and pleasant nights

:rofl:

[smjohn]

I'm not sure if this is where to post this, but I'm in need of some support and I'm hoping I might find some here.

I'm exhausted. I went to work 3 weeks after my daughter was born two years ago and haven't had much more than a 3 and 1/2 day weekend since. My husband has been seriously injured not once but twice since she was born so most of the childcare/housework responsibilities fall on me. He does what he can to help, but honestly, it isn't that much. I feel like I'm going to peices and I can't get a grip on things. How do you do it? How does anyone? I mean, I feel like a freakin whiner because I know that being a mom is a full time job and that's just the way it is. My daughter is watched by family members during the week while I'm at work so nobody wants to take her on a weekend and I hate even asking because I'm so blessed that I don't have to put her in daycare.
My step kids are coming out for the summer in a few weeks and I want so badly to be excited about it, but all I can think is that its more stress and I don't know if I can take anymore stress. I love my step kids, and so I feel horribly guilty thinking of it that way.
In fact, I feel horribly guilty about complaining at all about my situation. I have steady work where so many people don't. I have a healthy child. I have a good family.
The only thing I don't seem to have is the time and space to recharge.
How do you do it? What do you do? Am I just a whiner? Honestly, am I? Is this normal?

You're not a whiner:) You sound perfectly normal to me. I am a single mom with 3 kids, I know how busy things can be. Having an injured husband and working and everything else...Has to be stressful. My youngest just turned 2 and her grandmother, thank the LORD, watches her for me. I feel the same way about trying to get time to myself and asking someone who already watches her to do it, but, you will be no good at all to anyone unless you recharge. Surely, your family members will understand.

[arista]

Well, I had a male friend that suggested that I just buy the ceramic break pads and have the repair shop put them on. I did this, but still it saved me a bunch of money. I also went back and had the first shop meet the second price of estimate on first shop on some more major problems. WHEW!! This would be a lot easier, if it was only a few dollars. However, with my limited budget it is major fundage.

[smjohn]

Well, I had a male friend that suggested that I just buy the ceramic break pads and have the repair shop put them on. I did this, but still it saved me a bunch of money. I also went back and had the first shop meet the second price of estimate on first shop on some more major problems. WHEW!! This would be a lot easier, if it was only a few dollars. However, with my limited budget it is major fundage.

I tried to have a shop replace my brake pads like that but they said they wouldn't. They tried to give me some crap about how they would be responsible if I purchased the pads somewhere else & they put them on, instead they just wanted to charge me over $500 to do it themselves. I gave them my opinion about it and walked out the door. (Don't trust the Midas touch)

[Roseasharn]

Thanks so much John and smjohn.
Hugs right back.
Smjohn: 3 kids and a single mom? Lord woman, I bow at your feet.

[Charms7]

I'm not sure if this is where to post this, but I'm in need of some support and I'm hoping I might find some here.

I'm exhausted. I went to work 3 weeks after my daughter was born two years ago and haven't had much more than a 3 and 1/2 day weekend since. My husband has been seriously injured not once but twice since she was born so most of the childcare/housework responsibilities fall on me. He does what he can to help, but honestly, it isn't that much. I feel like I'm going to peices and I can't get a grip on things. How do you do it? How does anyone? I mean, I feel like a freakin whiner because I know that being a mom is a full time job and that's just the way it is. My daughter is watched by family members during the week while I'm at work so nobody wants to take her on a weekend and I hate even asking because I'm so blessed that I don't have to put her in daycare.
My step kids are coming out for the summer in a few weeks and I want so badly to be excited about it, but all I can think is that its more stress and I don't know if I can take anymore stress. I love my step kids, and so I feel horribly guilty thinking of it that way.
In fact, I feel horribly guilty about complaining at all about my situation. I have steady work where so many people don't. I have a healthy child. I have a good family.
The only thing I don't seem to have is the time and space to recharge.
How do you do it? What do you do? Am I just a whiner? Honestly, am I? Is this normal?

You are not a whiner, Roseasharn. I know how stressful life can be sometimes. Try to do little things for yourself. (Calgon, take me away!)
http://www.teebop.com/mas_assets/categoryimages/CALGON.jpg
There's got to be a good reason why that ad has been so successful and millions of women, including me, have bought into that dream. I would say what you're feeling is quite normal. Many prayers for you. Things will get better.

[pandora]

I'm not sure if this is where to post this, but I'm in need of some support and I'm hoping I might find some here.


The only thing I don't seem to have is the time and space to recharge.
How do you do it? What do you do? Am I just a whiner? Honestly, am I? Is this normal?

Hey Rose....you need to find some time to get away and refresh, (wish there was a button for that!) but it sounds like if you did find a day to do that, you'd feel guilty. You can't feel guilty!!! Everyone needs that breather and with more kids on the way? Whew!! Why don't you go to the gym, and you won't feel guilty cause you can take your daughter with you!! Some of them have great child care right in the building and if you don't belong to one, ask for a visitors pass. Maybe working out sounds like more work but they usually have nice pools/spas, etc. Hey it's worth a try and you sound like you need it.
A whiner??? Not even girl !!!!!!! Us parents know what your talking about !

[Benita]

I am a 29yo Australian woman and I think that you are all winggers! I am with a man that I can communicate with so we dont have expectations of each other that are unrelistic!
If your man doesent understand you then dont be with him!! Move on and dont be scard to be alown as it can be the best place to be!
All in all GET OVER IT!

[Perse Jr.]

I'm not sure if this is where to post this, but I'm in need of some support and I'm hoping I might find some here.

I'm exhausted. I went to work 3 weeks after my daughter was born two years ago and haven't had much more than a 3 and 1/2 day weekend since. My husband has been seriously injured not once but twice since she was born so most of the childcare/housework responsibilities fall on me. He does what he can to help, but honestly, it isn't that much. I feel like I'm going to peices and I can't get a grip on things. How do you do it? How does anyone? I mean, I feel like a freakin whiner because I know that being a mom is a full time job and that's just the way it is. My daughter is watched by family members during the week while I'm at work so nobody wants to take her on a weekend and I hate even asking because I'm so blessed that I don't have to put her in daycare.
My step kids are coming out for the summer in a few weeks and I want so badly to be excited about it, but all I can think is that its more stress and I don't know if I can take anymore stress. I love my step kids, and so I feel horribly guilty thinking of it that way.
In fact, I feel horribly guilty about complaining at all about my situation. I have steady work where so many people don't. I have a healthy child. I have a good family.
The only thing I don't seem to have is the time and space to recharge.
How do you do it? What do you do? Am I just a whiner? Honestly, am I? Is this normal?

You are absolutely normal. Unfortunately, women tend to take on the world no matter what sacrifices we have to make to do so. Most of the sacrifices are our own personal wants or desires, and we make darn sure everyone else in our life has everything they need first and foremost. People handle what they have on their plates simply because they have to in order to survive. DO NOT feel guilty, in fact, you should feel proud you've gotten this far. You love your family, you just don't have any time for yourself. Does your daughter have a friend she could hang out with on a weekend day? A play date maybe with someone who isn't a relative? Maybe you should try joining one of the mom sites like CafeMom or Mamasource and try to connect with someone in your area? Or hang out at a park and see if you can't make a connection with another mom there. Maybe you need to branch out and try to make one or two friends outside of your family. If you could get some sort of play date situation going, maybe it could turn into a weekend swap type of thing.

Could you get more "me" time by maybe going to bed later or getting up earlier? I'm lucky I don't need much sleep, so I often go to back hours after everybody else and cherish that alone time, even if it's just watching TV.

As hard as it is, try not to forget that you cannot get any of these moments back once they're gone. Your daughter and step-children are learning by your example, so try hard (we're superheroes remember) to take a deep breath and continue enjoying and loving your family as you so obviously do.

And get those kids to start helping out so you don't have to do everything yourself! Make it a fun project or start a "chores chart," for extra rewards. It's not easy asking for help, but there are creative ways to get help without asking for it. :smile2:

GO MOM POWER!

[poisonbat]

As you all know, I have been on a quest to lose weight and be healthier. Yesterday was a huge turning day for me. I slipped easily into a pair of size 6 Capri's. I was a size 12 in December and size 6 was my goal by September. :laugh: I am oh so happy about being done with losing weight. Now I must learn how to maintain. Total weight loss, 29 lbs. :blush: Total Cholesterol lowering 100 points. Feeling sexy again, priceless.:love::bat:

[smjohn]

Thanks so much John and smjohn.
Hugs right back.
Smjohn: 3 kids and a single mom? Lord woman, I bow at your feet.

It's really not as hard as having 3 kids and a man who acts like one...:biggrin2: Thank you, though:)

[poisonbat]

I am a 29yo Australian woman and I think that you are all winggers! I am with a man that I can communicate with so we dont have expectations of each other that are unrelistic!
If your man doesent understand you then dont be with him!! Move on and dont be scard to be alown as it can be the best place to be!
All in all GET OVER IT!

WOW, where did this come from?? What is a wingger? Or were you saying whiner? What are we supposed to just GET OVER? I am truly curious. :bat:

[arista]

As you all know, I have been on a quest to lose weight and be healthier. Yesterday was a huge turning day for me. I slipped easily into a pair of size 6 Capri's. I was a size 12 in December and size 6 was my goal by September. :laugh: I am oh so happy about being done with losing weight. Now I must learn how to maintain. Total weight loss, 29 lbs. :blush: Total Cholesterol lowering 100 points. Feeling sexy again, priceless.:love::bat:

Congratulations Poisonbat..Way to go!!

[arista]

I think Mom power is nothing to underestimate. It is exhausting work and not very much praised. The average mom works 8 hours and then comes home and works another shift. GO mom power and take time to take care of yourself, so you can take care of others.

[Roseasharn]

As hard as it is, try not to forget that you cannot get any of these moments back once they're gone. Your daughter and step-children are learning by your example, so try hard (we're superheroes remember) to take a deep breath and continue enjoying and loving your family as you so obviously do.


Thanks so much to everybody for your support and good ideas. I will definitely try to see what I can incorporate. I especially like the idea of trying to get to the gym! I miss exercising and the good lord knows I haven't lost as much of the baby weight as I should. And bubble baths are good, too. :-) And playdates, too! justice needs more interaction with kids her age. These are great solutions.

I kind of feel silly, like I should have been able to figure all this out myself. :-) But it would appear that I got a bad case of tunnel vision and since I wasn't, thanks for being there!

Perse Jr: My stepdaughter and stepson say I'm not the superhero, I'm sidekick and they are the superheroes. Because sidekicks do all the work. Isn't it refreshing what kids come up with, all on their own?
They really are the best, you know.

And really, thank you, everyone. It actually felt nice to just be able to say "I'm frakkin losing it!" and not feel bad about it.

[Autumnlyn]

I'm not sure if this is where to post this, but I'm in need of some support and I'm hoping I might find some here.

I'm exhausted. I went to work 3 weeks after my daughter was born two years ago and haven't had much more than a 3 and 1/2 day weekend since. My husband has been seriously injured not once but twice since she was born so most of the childcare/housework responsibilities fall on me. He does what he can to help, but honestly, it isn't that much. I feel like I'm going to peices and I can't get a grip on things. How do you do it? How does anyone? I mean, I feel like a freakin whiner because I know that being a mom is a full time job and that's just the way it is. My daughter is watched by family members during the week while I'm at work so nobody wants to take her on a weekend and I hate even asking because I'm so blessed that I don't have to put her in daycare.
My step kids are coming out for the summer in a few weeks and I want so badly to be excited about it, but all I can think is that its more stress and I don't know if I can take anymore stress. I love my step kids, and so I feel horribly guilty thinking of it that way.
In fact, I feel horribly guilty about complaining at all about my situation. I have steady work where so many people don't. I have a healthy child. I have a good family.
The only thing I don't seem to have is the time and space to recharge.
How do you do it? What do you do? Am I just a whiner? Honestly, am I? Is this normal?

How old are these stepchildren? Maybe this is your blessing in disguise. Playmates to entertain your daughter or if old enough...babysit.

I have twins so I can vouch for the WONDERFULNESS of a constant playmate.

Best of luck to you!-

[LadyPain]

You are not a whiner, Roseasharn. I know how stressful life can be sometimes. Try to do little things for yourself. (Calgon, take me away!)
http://www.teebop.com/mas_assets/categoryimages/CALGON.jpg
There's got to be a good reason why that ad has been so successful and millions of women, including me, have bought into that dream. I would say what you're feeling is quite normal. Many prayers for you. Things will get better.

Actually, Calgon went bankrupt earlier this year. I found that out from the cosmetics manager where I work. It'll get hard to find the stuff.

Algemarin and Fa have some absolutely divine bubble bath, though...

[LadyPain]

WOW, where did this come from?? What is a wingger? Or were you saying whiner? What are we supposed to just GET OVER? I am truly curious. :bat:

It's Aussie Ocker for the word WHINE. She's called us a bunch of whiners.

I lived in Aus for a while YEARS ago, so I know.

[Perse Jr.]

I kind of feel silly, like I should have been able to figure all this out myself. :-) But it would appear that I got a bad case of tunnel vision and since I wasn't, thanks for being there!

Perse Jr: My stepdaughter and stepson say I'm not the superhero, I'm sidekick and they are the superheroes. Because sidekicks do all the work. Isn't it refreshing what kids come up with, all on their own?
They really are the best, you know.

And really, thank you, everyone. It actually felt nice to just be able to say "I'm frakkin losing it!" and not feel bad about it.

That's what friends are for. :smile2: Sometimes the best thing is just writing something down and getting it "out." And it always feels so much better when you know you're not alone; that other people are going through the same thing. And you ARE the superhero...set those kids straight. Go find a funny cape or something and show them who's boss.

Yesterday, my 3 year old said, "mom, you are being ree-dick-lee-us!" Kids are funny and refreshing...I live for those moments.

[Perse Jr.]

I am a 29yo Australian woman and I think that you are all winggers! I am with a man that I can communicate with so we dont have expectations of each other that are unrelistic!
If your man doesent understand you then dont be with him!! Move on and dont be scard to be alown as it can be the best place to be!
All in all GET OVER IT!

Sorry, I tried not to comment, but I cannot help myself. A marriage or relationship is hard work. Raising a family in a marriage, alone, or in a relationship is hard work. Everybody is entitled to get things off his or her chest when needed, and there's no such thing as a perfect couple. Even the best relationship in the world has issues every now and then. What you're reading is not "wingging" or "whining," it's called being human with stress and trials. It's not a matter of being alone (or, as you say, "alown" ???), it's a matter of surviving; happily, all together, as a family.

I truly hope your own relationship stays realistic, as you say; it's wonderful and a blessing to be in a great relationship with open communication.

[Roseasharn]

My stepdaughter is 10 and my stepson is 8. They both love Justice insanely and, if given ample breaks to act their own age, love to spend time with her. Especially my stepson. He treats her like she's a tiny princess. In this way, I am very lucky. I haven't had to deal with too much weird jealousy, yet.
The stress doesn't come from them, it comes from adults around them. They are crazy and they try my patience, but for the most part they are very well behaved, loveable little punks. :grinning: It is a complicated family situation that isn't their fault at all that brings the added stress. That and we are not exactly financially stable right now. I budget to the dollar as it is.
But once they're here, I'm sure it'll work out. I've always managed before.

The only bubble bath I am currently in possession of is Spongebob. :-)

[smjohn]

I am a 29yo Australian woman and I think that you are all winggers! I am with a man that I can communicate with so we dont have expectations of each other that are unrelistic!
If your man doesent understand you then dont be with him!! Move on and dont be scard to be alown as it can be the best place to be!
All in all GET OVER IT!

I don't think you intended to come across as a judgemental, egotistical person, but you did.:glare:

[catnoel]

Try not to be a b#@$%^!!!! Really.... I have learned not to say the first thing that comes to my mind.

[Wendy Capps]

As you all know, I have been on a quest to lose weight and be healthier. Yesterday was a huge turning day for me. I slipped easily into a pair of size 6 Capri's. I was a size 12 in December and size 6 was my goal by September. :laugh: I am oh so happy about being done with losing weight. Now I must learn how to maintain. Total weight loss, 29 lbs. :blush: Total Cholesterol lowering 100 points. Feeling sexy again, priceless.:love::bat:
YOU GO GIRL!!!:laugh:

[Zgirlie]

I am LMAO and have to share this somewhere, it's too good to let fizzle. There's a woman at work who....shall we say, works for channel 11? (camel toe, in case you missed that discussion) Today she had on a pair of jeans that must have required an hour of calisthenics just to get into. Well...she bent over to pick up a box from the floor, and RRRRRRIP! There goes the whole left cheek, havin' a coming out party for all to see!

Yes, I know this probably reveals more about my character than her backside. But I'm human...I laughed until I cried!

[Benita]

My point was that i agree that a marrage and a family are hard work but if your with the right person that work is not so bad or hard. I also belive that if you need to complain about the man your with then maybe you ether need to sit and talk to them or move on

[smjohn]

My point was that i agree that a marrage and a family are hard work but if your with the right person that work is not so bad or hard. I also belive that if you need to complain about the man your with then maybe you ether need to sit and talk to them or move on

I guess that's just a black & white way to think about a subject with so much gray in it. If you NEVER, EVER complain about your husband to anyone about anything, well, I guess you are just a bigger person than any one of us. Also, you probably shouldn't assume that just because people are venting about their significant other must mean they aren't discussing it with them.

[Perse Jr.]

OK ladies, I have an odd question for you, but I must ask. Does anyone here know what a "man hair" is? My friend and I were talking about "man hairs" last night. She told me about them, swears I must have one somewhere, and I think she is totally crazy. Apparently, it's a "fine hair that just grows and grows." How would I not notice a hair that keeps getting longer? She has one on her forearm. ????

[pandora]

I am a 29yo Australian woman and I think that you are all winggers! I am with a man that I can communicate with so we dont have expectations of each other that are unrelistic!
If your man doesent understand you then dont be with him!! Move on and dont be scard to be alown as it can be the best place to be!
All in all GET OVER IT!

Brutal !!! I think you sound like you belong on Craigs List Rants.
Some of those that post there just do it to feel like they have something to say and to be mean. That post deserves time in the back of the cave !!! Go on.

[arista]

OK ladies, I have an odd question for you, but I must ask. Does anyone here know what a "man hair" is? My friend and I were talking about "man hairs" last night. She told me about them, swears I must have one somewhere, and I think she is totally crazy. Apparently, it's a "fine hair that just grows and grows." How would I not notice a hair that keeps getting longer? She has one on her forearm. ????

Sometimes manhair grows out ones ears.

[SusanNorton]

OK ladies, I have an odd question for you, but I must ask. Does anyone here know what a "man hair" is? My friend and I were talking about "man hairs" last night. She told me about them, swears I must have one somewhere, and I think she is totally crazy. Apparently, it's a "fine hair that just grows and grows." How would I not notice a hair that keeps getting longer? She has one on her forearm. ????

:blush: I have one on my upper arm, which I have to be vigilant about checking since I like wearing sleeveless shirts, and also am a brunette.

A friend of mine has one on her forehead!!!! But at least it's blonde.

[Perse Jr.]

My point was that i agree that a marrage and a family are hard work but if your with the right person that work is not so bad or hard. I also belive that if you need to complain about the man your with then maybe you ether need to sit and talk to them or move on

I guess I can see where you're coming from, but what is the point then of even being part of something like this? The SKMB? Here, everyone talks about what's going on in life, books, current events, etc. While it's true that if you're with the "right" person, the work that goes into making a relationship work, maybe isn't work per se, however, sometimes it is nice to vent or get out our frustrations to people other than our spouse/partner/... Everybody, even you, at some point or points in life, must need to share things with others for personal growth, a different perspective, yada, yada, yada...

[boogerb53]

I am a 29yo Australian woman and I think that you are all winggers! I am with a man that I can communicate with so we dont have expectations of each other that are unrelistic!
If your man doesent understand you then dont be with him!! Move on and dont be scard to be alown as it can be the best place to be!
All in all GET OVER IT!

Sheesh! Thanks for being so supportive. I thought women were supposed to comfort and build each other up-not make them feel bad for not being in a perfect situation, as your's obviously is.

No relationship is perfect. We all have problems and need somewhere to vent those problems.

[Todash]

OK ladies, I have an odd question for you, but I must ask. Does anyone here know what a "man hair" is? My friend and I were talking about "man hairs" last night. She told me about them, swears I must have one somewhere, and I think she is totally crazy. Apparently, it's a "fine hair that just grows and grows." How would I not notice a hair that keeps getting longer? She has one on her forearm. ????
I know what they are, and I don't have one. I don't think everyone has one. My husband has one crazy eyebrow hair that does that, just grows and grows.

HOWEVER, have you ever had that experience where you are shaving your pits and you suddenly see a hair that's way longer than all the others? What is up with THAT? It's like you missed the same hair for 10 shaves.

[poisonbat]

OK ladies, I have an odd question for you, but I must ask. Does anyone here know what a "man hair" is? My friend and I were talking about "man hairs" last night. She told me about them, swears I must have one somewhere, and I think she is totally crazy. Apparently, it's a "fine hair that just grows and grows." How would I not notice a hair that keeps getting longer? She has one on her forearm. ????

lol she is right in my case. I have one that grows out of a mole on my arm. I pluck that bugger everytime I see it rearing its little head. :eek2::bat: But I never thought of it as a "man hair":laugh:

[Natjen26]

I am a 29yo Australian woman and I think that you are all winggers! I am with a man that I can communicate with so we dont have expectations of each other that are unrelistic!
If your man doesent understand you then dont be with him!! Move on and dont be scard to be alown as it can be the best place to be!
All in all GET OVER IT!

I gave it a THX to hastily. My initial response was that she's right, when you and your partner don't seem to connect well, despite efforts than parting is usually the best way to go. My parents didn't connect that well, and sometimes I think they would both be happier if they'd divorced. Sometimes people tend to hang on to much, maybe scared of the unknown. But to quote Juliet from Lost: Sometimes you're not meant to be together, even if you love each other.

But I do agree with all of you who say relationships are hard work. For being part of one for a merely one third of my short life, I know that to be the unmistakingly truth.

As for Benita I think it's wonderful that you and your partner truly can talk. But not having unrealistic expectations is a bold thing to say. For instance I expect my partner to be more romantic, take more charge, maybe talk dirty, someone who can dance, a more careful driver and his greatest flaw of not reading books would be changed immediatly, but when I could change him, that will leave me only with an empty shell. Because, despite his flaws, he's the man I love. So to sum it up, I have unrealistic expectations, but I want them to stay unrealistic (except maybe the not reading books). Yeah, I fell for his good looks. :love:

[Kim L.]

:blush: I have one on my upper arm, which I have to be vigilant about checking since I like wearing sleeveless shirts, and also am a brunette.

A friend of mine has one on her forehead!!!! But at least it's blonde.

I have one on my upper R arm, but it's blonde. My husband swears he can't see it; I think he's just being polite.

[Zgirlie]

OK ladies, I have an odd question for you, but I must ask. Does anyone here know what a "man hair" is? My friend and I were talking about "man hairs" last night. She told me about them, swears I must have one somewhere, and I think she is totally crazy. Apparently, it's a "fine hair that just grows and grows." How would I not notice a hair that keeps getting longer? She has one on her forearm. ????

:rofl: I never called it a "man hair" but I have one of those hairs on my neck, right in the front. I don't know when it appeared, but I noticed it one day when I got a mosquito bite right next to it. I grabbed it, pulled it taut to its then 2-inch length, and said, "WTF?!!!" Now I'm laying for it...poised with tweezers every time I look in the mirror and ready to do battle.

I really hope I don't have one somewhere else that I am not aware of...it's not like I have a lot of time to scour my lily-white bod for stray hairs.

[Autumnlyn]

I think the Man Hair is a sneaky hair. Usually a white one that can only be seen at a 45 degree angle in direct sunlight.

If your trying to find one on yourself, its like trying to solve the Davinci Code. But, in a embarassing social situation, BAM an appearance. I was at a BBQ with a large group of friends and family. My best friend of 20 yrs walks up to me and say's 'you have a hair on you, here Ill get it' and ganks it! I yelp and everyone looks. Classic Lyn. D@mn that one friggin hair.

[arista]

Apparently this has become problem according to the commerical. That ladies are wearing swimsuits that are way too small after hybernating for the winter. Advice to all-Have a mirror to make sure that everything is covered and you do not need to use SPF 1000 on our eyelids to recover from shock of the flesh covering the swimsuit.

[Perse Jr.]

I know what they are, and I don't have one. I don't think everyone has one. My husband has one crazy eyebrow hair that does that, just grows and grows.

HOWEVER, have you ever had that experience where you are shaving your pits and you suddenly see a hair that's way longer than all the others? What is up with THAT? It's like you missed the same hair for 10 shaves.

I've never had the "long pit hair" incident, but I have had the "leg patch" thing happen to me. Just look down at the leg, and there is this little patch of unshaved hair. How can a person miss a square inch of stubble? I've done it often.

Thanks Ladies! Guess I should call my friend and let her know I believe her now! AND, I HAVE been searching and searching for one...looking at all angles in the mirror, examining my arm hair, etc. Can't find one, but I'm on the look-out! LOL!

[pandora]

I was looking for a thread re: Memorial Day and there was none. So what else would I do but turn to my girls !!!! I appreciate and love my freedom and want honor those who have given it to me and my family. Try and imagine yourself leaving your children, spouse and family for whatever reason, and walking away knowing there's a possibility that you may not return. These people did just that for their country and their loved ones. Please take the time to read on and for a moment look through someone else's eyes.


Excerpt of a letter from Army Pfc. Jesse A. Givens, 34, of Springfield, Mo. Private Givens was killed May 1 when his tank fell into the Euphrates River after the bank on which he was parked gave way. This letter was written to be delivered to his family if he died. Melissa is his wife, Dakota his 6-year-old stepson and Bean the name he used for his son, Carson, who was born May 29.

My family,

I never thought that I would be writing a letter like this. I really don't know where to start. I've been getting bad feelings, though and, well, if you are reading this. . . .

The happiest moments in my life all deal with my little family. I will always have with me the small moments we all shared. The moments when you quit taking life so serious and smiled. The sounds of a beautiful boy's laughter or the simple nudge of a baby unborn. You will never know how complete you have made me. You saved me from loneliness and taught me how to think beyond myself. You taught me how to live and to love. You opened my eyes to a world I never dreamed existed.

Dakota . . . you taught me how to care until it hurts, you taught me how to smile again. You taught me that life isn't so serious and sometimes you just have to play. You have a big, beautiful heart. Through life you need to keep it open and follow it. Never be afraid to be yourself. I will always be there in our park when you dream so we can play. I love you, and hope someday you will understand why I didn't come home. Please be proud of me.

Bean, I never got to see you but I know in my heart you are beautiful. I know you will be strong and big-hearted like your mom and brother. I will always have with me the feel of the soft nudges on your mom's belly, and the joy I felt when I found out you were on your way. I love you, Bean.

Melissa, I have never been as blessed as the day I met you. You are my angel, soulmate, wife, lover and best friend. I am sorry. I did not want to have to write this letter. There is so much more I need to say, so much more I need to share. A lifetime's worth. I married you for a million lifetimes. That's how long I will be with you. Please keep my babies safe. Please find it in your heart to forgive me for leaving you alone. . . . Teach our babies to live life to the fullest, tell yourself to do the same.

I will always be there with you, Melissa. I will always want you, need you and love you, in my heart, my mind and my soul. Do me a favor, after you tuck the children in. Give them hugs and kisses from me. Go outside and look at the stars and count them. Don't forget to smile.

Love Always,

Your husband,

Jess

[Perse Jr.]

What a beautiful letter to share and put things into perspective. To think I've been at my own little pity party this morning because I'm tired after a busy weekend. To think about leaving my family, is to think about trying to live life without air; impossible. I am so fortunate to have my loved ones so close to me. Thank goodness for the men and women who sacrifice for our freedom; not just those who serve in the Armed Forces, but their families, friends, and loved ones too.

Thank you Pandora...

[arista]

Okay today's woman thing to discuss-Noticed it today at the bank. When did it become okay for "business" attire to include low cut blouses that revealed everything when she bent down for the transaction? I am not a prude..But C'mon it was a bank..

[FlakeNoir]

I was looking for a thread re: Memorial Day and there was none. So what else would I do but turn to my girls !!!! I appreciate and love my freedom and want honor those who have given it to me and my family. Try and imagine yourself leaving your children, spouse and family for whatever reason, and walking away knowing there's a possibility that you may not return. These people did just that for their country and their loved ones. Please take the time to read on and for a moment look through someone else's eyes.


Excerpt of a letter from Army Pfc. Jesse A. Givens, 34, of Springfield, Mo. Private Givens was killed May 1 when his tank fell into the Euphrates River after the bank on which he was parked gave way. This letter was written to be delivered to his family if he died. Melissa is his wife, Dakota his 6-year-old stepson and Bean the name he used for his son, Carson, who was born May 29.

My family,

I never thought that I would be writing a letter like this. I really don't know where to start. I've been getting bad feelings, though and, well, if you are reading this. . . .

The happiest moments in my life all deal with my little family. I will always have with me the small moments we all shared. The moments when you quit taking life so serious and smiled. The sounds of a beautiful boy's laughter or the simple nudge of a baby unborn. You will never know how complete you have made me. You saved me from loneliness and taught me how to think beyond myself. You taught me how to live and to love. You opened my eyes to a world I never dreamed existed.

Dakota . . . you taught me how to care until it hurts, you taught me how to smile again. You taught me that life isn't so serious and sometimes you just have to play. You have a big, beautiful heart. Through life you need to keep it open and follow it. Never be afraid to be yourself. I will always be there in our park when you dream so we can play. I love you, and hope someday you will understand why I didn't come home. Please be proud of me.

Bean, I never got to see you but I know in my heart you are beautiful. I know you will be strong and big-hearted like your mom and brother. I will always have with me the feel of the soft nudges on your mom's belly, and the joy I felt when I found out you were on your way. I love you, Bean.

Melissa, I have never been as blessed as the day I met you. You are my angel, soulmate, wife, lover and best friend. I am sorry. I did not want to have to write this letter. There is so much more I need to say, so much more I need to share. A lifetime's worth. I married you for a million lifetimes. That's how long I will be with you. Please keep my babies safe. Please find it in your heart to forgive me for leaving you alone. . . . Teach our babies to live life to the fullest, tell yourself to do the same.

I will always be there with you, Melissa. I will always want you, need you and love you, in my heart, my mind and my soul. Do me a favor, after you tuck the children in. Give them hugs and kisses from me. Go outside and look at the stars and count them. Don't forget to smile.

Love Always,

Your husband,

Jess
Oh Jeez, that made me cry....

[JohnDalglish]

Okay today's woman thing to discuss-Noticed it today at the bank. When did it become okay for "business" attire to include low cut blouses that revealed everything when she bent down for the transaction? I am not a prude..But C'mon it was a bank..

Hi,

Indeed, completely unacceptable.

Where's your bank again?

Long days and pleasant nights

[Roseasharn]

Okay today's woman thing to discuss-Noticed it today at the bank. When did it become okay for "business" attire to include low cut blouses that revealed everything when she bent down for the transaction? I am not a prude..But C'mon it was a bank..

That isn't Business attire.
It's Business Casual attire. :p
Honestly, I have no idea, but I work in insurance and finance and I'm telling you it is becoming more and more prevalent.
I have also noticed a return of the cutesy little voices and helpless female in distress act.
Gag me.

[AngelZ]

Okay today's woman thing to discuss-Noticed it today at the bank. When did it become okay for "business" attire to include low cut blouses that revealed everything when she bent down for the transaction? I am not a prude..But C'mon it was a bank..

Some people just don't have any class. If it continues, and you think it's inappropriate, I think it's within your rights has a bank customer to make a complaint. I don't think it's professional for a woman or a man for that matter to wear low cut blouses/shirts. I think if it was a nightclub, I would feel differently.

[Perse Jr.]

Years ago, it used to be that open-toed shoes were the big controversy. "Should we allow our employees to show their toes? Goodness, me!" Then it progressed to Capri's. "Well, are they really pants or not?" Then, it turned to bare skin. "Is it really inappropriate for her to show her cleavage like that? After all, that is the fashion now." As someone who's been in personnel for over 10 years, it's a VERY touchy subject. Employers create a dress code, lines are always being crossed, and there are always "offenders" who never seem to be corrected. Remember the day when employees were actually sent home to change?

[poisonbat]

Business attire should look professional. When I worked in an office, I always was in a dress that came below my knees and covered my breasts. I was not there to get a date, I was there to do my job. Now when I went out.....:laugh: Some people want that kind of attention, but it is unprofessional and inappropriate. :glare: But I don't know if I would have the guts to say something to the manager..:eek2: Maybe I would if my man was checking her out though...:biggrin2::bat:

[Roseasharn]

I will admit to occasionally pushing the envelope with the dress code around this place, but it mostly has to do with shoes. Many a day I have hidden my bare feet under my desk and prayed my boss wouldn't notice that I was managing to go more than half the day without shoes on my feet!
I hate shoes.
And when my direct supervisor is gone, I sometimes wear jeans.
But if I'm wearing a shirt that shows too much skin, I always throw a nice cardigan over it and button it strategically.
I am a little more than adequately endowed. I have a hard enough time getting the menfolks to look at my face as it is. I see no reason to flaunt it in the workplace. But like poisonbat says...when I go out..... :oh:
:p

[arista]

I agree that business attire has changed through the years. It should be reflective of the business environment that you are working. However, I think as a general rule, coverage of the boobages is not a bad thing. Enough said on that one.

[Kim L.]

Oh Jeez, that made me cry....

Me, too.

[AngelZ]

I will admit to occasionally pushing the envelope with the dress code around this place, but it mostly has to do with shoes. Many a day I have hidden my bare feet under my desk and prayed my boss wouldn't notice that I was managing to go more than half the day without shoes on my feet!
I hate shoes.
And when my direct supervisor is gone, I sometimes wear jeans.
But if I'm wearing a shirt that shows too much skin, I always throw a nice cardigan over it and button it strategically.
I am a little more than adequately endowed. I have a hard enough time getting the menfolks to look at my face as it is. I see no reason to flaunt it in the workplace. But like poisonbat says...when I go out..... :oh:
:p
You're not the only one. I take my daughter to a ballet studio and the office manager walks around barefeet. I thought it was a little strange. I think it's one thing to take off your shoes by your desk, but to walk around without shoes. I guess, it's not the most formal place and dancers do dance without shoes...

[shangirl]

The best thing I do for him is convince him to read Stephen King! He was a little hesitant at first he thought of them as just scary stories but he has since more than changed his mind. His very favorite story in "The Mist."

[shangirl]

My husband told me a few things... Make sure the oil doesn't look muddy or feel gritty. make sure there is no milky looking stuff on the oil cap. Make sure The tranny fluid doesn't smell burnt and it's good if the engine fires right up- Oh BTW this is for if you are buying a used car...:wow:

[aneaglesangel]

Well, I'm a licensed Auto Body Damage Appraiser in my state. (Unfortunately a car accident (yeah, ironic) keeps me at home right now, so I'm not working at the moment.) But, I have full knowledge of the workings of a car and what a reasonable price to fix it should be. If I don't know, I can look it up. I sort of enjoy going in and letting a mechanic try to pull the wool over my eyes, and then letting them try to back out of it when they find out I have a clue. Sort of amuses me. I have my own mechanic though and he charges me peanuts for any work I need done even if I am a woman, so I don't need the highway robber shops out there! Thank goodness!

I remember my first car. I had some brake trouble. Do you know the mechanic tried to tell me a rock got stuck inside the brake, tore up my brakes, all four of them of course, then flew out and wiped out my exhaust system? Hmm, go figure, killer rock!! Must have been a rock right out of a Stephen King thriller! I might have been young, but thank goodness I wasn't stupid. I took the car to another shop.

[JohnDalglish]

Well, I'm a licensed Auto Body Damage Appraiser in my state. (Unfortunately a car accident (yeah, ironic) keeps me at home right now, so I'm not working at the moment.)


Hi,

You just can't make up life's rich ironies, can you?

Get well soon!

Long days and pleasant nights

[Leighjavu]

Years ago, it used to be that open-toed shoes were the big controversy. "Should we allow our employees to show their toes? Goodness, me!" Then it progressed to Capri's. "Well, are they really pants or not?" Then, it turned to bare skin. "Is it really inappropriate for her to show her cleavage like that? After all, that is the fashion now." As someone who's been in personnel for over 10 years, it's a VERY touchy subject. Employers create a dress code, lines are always being crossed, and there are always "offenders" who never seem to be corrected. Remember the day when employees were actually sent home to change?

I think that some people can wear what I'll call high fashion and look groomed and well put together. It takes alot of prep. to put together a nice hairstyle, cosmetics, manicure, clothing, footwear jewelry and accesories.
Anyways, no matter what size, some people can put together a great look. Going to work decked out can backfire, though. I've found that clothes that fit right but not too tight, a splash of jewelry and being clean bring me the best interaction with others. Dress like a hoochie will repel the good ones with class and attract the (how best to describe) flies.

[MeLeesa Swann]

for the last five years, my husband has manipulated me into washing the dishes. he was completely unable to get them clean, and after a few weeks, i got tired of having to redo everything he washed. After five years of this, i realized that he's a smart man who has learned to do a lot of things including such complicated stuff like writing computer programs and raising children. getting a dish clean is by no means beyond his reach. i still do the cooking and the laundry, but now HE's rewashing the dishes until their as clean as i want them to be for the next five years.

[JohnDalglish]

for the last five years, my husband has manipulated me into washing the dishes. he was completely unable to get them clean, and after a few weeks, i got tired of having to redo everything he washed. After five years of this, i realized that he's a smart man who has learned to do a lot of things including such complicated stuff like writing computer programs and raising children. getting a dish clean is by no means beyond his reach. i still do the cooking and the laundry, but now HE's rewashing the dishes until their as clean as i want them to be for the next five years.

Hi,

Betya that within the next five years your husband is a smart enough man to discover where dishwashng machines are sold LOL

Long days and pleasant nights

[Leighjavu]

The first paragraph regarding workplace fashion was written by Perse Jr. My apologies to Perse Jr. for not bracketing that fact. Leighjavu

[aliphil]

my hubby is a stay home dad he does all the house work and cooking so i can say the nicest thing i can do for him is give him the day off once and a while. mind you i love having thigs done for me. he does have a hard job looking after all of us as i have 4 boys in total. they take alot out of you mentally and enotionally so we do well for each other. he is my rock and i am his.

[Sundrop]

My hubby does the laundry. I do the cooking & the dishes. He can cook, but makes a huge mess when he does. :)

[LadyPain]

My husband is supposed to do all the outside work for the most part and I do the inside work. Not so much divided by gender roles, but by my inability to stay out in the sun due to lupus. I don't want mine washing dishes. He leaves snacks on them. Sneaky man...

[Natjen26]

We do most things together, like the dishes, cooking, cleaning. If they ever would invent a vacuum cleaner with two handles, we would do that together too. When we're alone we both just can't get started, too much to distract us. So together we keep each other motivated.

Although to be honest, I get more done in the same amount of time and he's more thorough.
He's doing the best he can. All things considered I'm a lucky girl. :love:

[mudpuppy]

Years ago, it used to be that open-toed shoes were the big controversy. "Should we allow our employees to show their toes? Goodness, me!" .

I try so hard to comply with my companies policies. The open toe shoe one is tough. In the summer it is so hard to find closed toe summer shoes. No one at my office is in compliance but me, and I'm probably the only one with sweaty smelly feet!

[Charms7]

I try so hard to comply with my companies policies. The open toe shoe one is tough. In the summer it is so hard to find closed toe summer shoes. No one at my office is in compliance but me, and I'm probably the only one with sweaty smelly feet!

I, too, used to have stinky feet. Then, I found that wearing absorbent socks and taking a multivitamin will counteract the stinkies. As long as I keep my mouth shut, I can be an accepted member of proper society again. It isn't halitosis, but the strange ramblings and my goofy clown nature that folks object to.

[Kim L.]

I try so hard to comply with my companies policies. The open toe shoe one is tough. In the summer it is so hard to find closed toe summer shoes. No one at my office is in compliance but me, and I'm probably the only one with sweaty smelly feet!

I work in a medical setting; open-toed shoes are out because of the risk of needlestick injuries etc. Do love my slingbacks though (& get complimented on them often).

[arista]

Sandals are meant for summertime..WOO HOO the office finally allowed us to wear em.

[LadyPain]

I don't have the option of open toe shoes at work. At bare minimum, I must wear running shoes. Compo would fine me if they came in and saw me with open toe shoes. Because I work in the back of the store, I wear steel-toed shoes. All year. They get hot in the summer, but after work I just go home and use a peppermint spray to cool off my feet and go in sandals at home.

Only the cosmetics department are allowed to wear open toe shoes to work and that's because they are out of the danger zones.

[MonaRoseRed]

What 1 thing do you do special for your man ? Men think we have to do the ironing,clean for him and etc.. So here is the place to say what is on your mind and tell the men to do things for himself.

Debbie


My husband is active duty Air Force. He deploys a lot so he knows the sacrifices I make for him that is why he doesn't ask me for anything. He is a wonderful man, very supportive and loving. I have no complains :smile2:

[Wayne C. Rogers]

Ladies,

Have any of you ever considered finding a man who loves and lives for doing special things for you. There are men like that out in the world, men who want to take the burden and pressure off of the women in their life by doing the chores around the house, the grocery shopping, the washing and ironing, the cooking, mowing the lawn, washing the cars, babysitting with the kids while you go shopping or out with the girls. Isn't time that you were pampered for a change?

[poisonbat]

I do have a strange problem that seems to be more of a women's problem than mens. I am almost always cold. At car shows people cluster under the shade, but I freeze under there. I always have to load up with sun block an long sleeves and sit in the sun or I am miserable. I swear if it is under 80* I am cold even in warm clothes. I get funny looks from people because of this. Even during the summer months I have to sleep with a thick comforter because my husband keeps the house at 74*. This is quite the issue for me in the winter too as you could well imagine. Even living here in California, when it is in the 40's I simply can not function. I shiver in a thick coat and gloves just to go to the grocery store. We have been having cooler weather for the last few days, (mid 70's to low 80's) and I have had to buy jeans to wear. Does anyone else have this kind of problem?? Maybe I have FBS Frozen Bat Syndrome:laugh::bat:

[arista]

Ladies,

Have any of you ever considered finding a man who loves and lives for doing special things for you. There are men like that out in the world, men who want to take the burden and pressure off of the women in their life by doing the chores around the house, the grocery shopping, the washing and ironing, the cooking, mowing the lawn, washing the cars, babysitting with the kids while you go shopping or out with the girls. Isn't time that you were pampered for a change?

Sign me up!!

[Roseasharn]

Ladies,

Have any of you ever considered finding a man who loves and lives for doing special things for you. There are men like that out in the world, men who want to take the burden and pressure off of the women in their life by doing the chores around the house, the grocery shopping, the washing and ironing, the cooking, mowing the lawn, washing the cars, babysitting with the kids while you go shopping or out with the girls. Isn't time that you were pampered for a change?

What? No, seriously, why didn't I get that memo?
Just kidding.
In a normal time, I pretty much have exactly that. Unfortunately, all these danged surgeries my husband has had and is having to have have put a cramp in our routine.
For better or for worse, I think that's what I said. This may be worse. :-) I'm hoping the better comes soon.

[smjohn]

Ladies,

Have any of you ever considered finding a man who loves and lives for doing special things for you. There are men like that out in the world, men who want to take the burden and pressure off of the women in their life by doing the chores around the house, the grocery shopping, the washing and ironing, the cooking, mowing the lawn, washing the cars, babysitting with the kids while you go shopping or out with the girls. Isn't time that you were pampered for a change?

Well, where the hell is he??:wow:

[Kim L.]

Ladies,

Have any of you ever considered finding a man who loves and lives for doing special things for you. There are men like that out in the world, men who want to take the burden and pressure off of the women in their life by doing the chores around the house, the grocery shopping, the washing and ironing, the cooking, mowing the lawn, washing the cars, babysitting with the kids while you go shopping or out with the girls. Isn't time that you were pampered for a change?

My husband does this for me (OK not the ironing); we've been married 20 wonderful years.

[LadyPain]

I do have a strange problem that seems to be more of a women's problem than mens. I am almost always cold. At car shows people cluster under the shade, but I freeze under there. I always have to load up with sun block an long sleeves and sit in the sun or I am miserable. I swear if it is under 80* I am cold even in warm clothes. I get funny looks from people because of this. Even during the summer months I have to sleep with a thick comforter because my husband keeps the house at 74*. This is quite the issue for me in the winter too as you could well imagine. Even living here in California, when it is in the 40's I simply can not function. I shiver in a thick coat and gloves just to go to the grocery store. We have been having cooler weather for the last few days, (mid 70's to low 80's) and I have had to buy jeans to wear. Does anyone else have this kind of problem?? Maybe I have FBS Frozen Bat Syndrome:laugh::bat:

Have you had your thyroid function checked? I used to be so cold all the time and a few other things started going wrong as well, including depression, and it turned out that my thyroid had packed it in. Solved with one pill a day.

[Jack Frost]

I live to serve my bride. I don't do things for her to get a reaction or a thank you, I do them because it is the right thing to do, the right way to honor her and my marriage!

[LadyPain]

I live to serve my bride. I don't do things for her to get a reaction or a thank you, I do them because it is the right thing to do, the right way to honor her and my marriage!

You must still be a newlywed...

[Jack Frost]

You must still be a newlywed...

A newlywed of 15 years come this August!!!

[TBlack]

I live to serve my bride. I don't do things for her to get a reaction or a thank you, I do them because it is the right thing to do, the right way to honor her and my marriage!
And she prolly still shaves her legs!

[rjt65]

PB i am the opposite i always seem to run 10 degrees hotter than others---

one of the last wearing shorts late in the fall-winter or the first to get em out in the spring. me in shorts t shirt others pants and sweat shirts

My older daughter is always chilling.... she will put her frozen hands on me to warm them up we must be 20 degrees apart!!!

I attract coldies!!! have had woman ask to utilize my heat. If i only knew this power when i was single !!! :laugh::laugh:





I do have a strange problem that seems to be more of a women's problem than mens. I am almost always cold. At car shows people cluster under the shade, but I freeze under there. I always have to load up with sun block an long sleeves and sit in the sun or I am miserable. I swear if it is under 80* I am cold even in warm clothes. I get funny looks from people because of this. Even during the summer months I have to sleep with a thick comforter because my husband keeps the house at 74*. This is quite the issue for me in the winter too as you could well imagine. Even living here in California, when it is in the 40's I simply can not function. I shiver in a thick coat and gloves just to go to the grocery store. We have been having cooler weather for the last few days, (mid 70's to low 80's) and I have had to buy jeans to wear. Does anyone else have this kind of problem?? Maybe I have FBS Frozen Bat Syndrome:laugh::bat:

[Jack Frost]

And she prolly still shaves her legs!

If she does she does, if she doesn't...so be it. I love her for who she is. I don't always shave my face (she doesn't care for facial hair), but she doesn't get mad at that. She is and always will be my beautiful bride--shaved or unshaved legs, overweight or skinny, sick or healthy--for better or worse!!! The good Lord gave her to me, and I will take care of her as best I can!

[Jack Frost]

I guess what it comes down to is that she may not be perfect, but neither am I! I'm far from a perfect husband. I can be crude, rude, and socially unacceptable. I flirt way too much. I irritate my bride regularly, and she irritates me too. Sometimes I don't like her very much, but I always love her with all my heart.

As I said before, I don't do things for her to get something back, but because I love her and want to honor her. That is true love, ladies and gentlemen. I don't care what she does or doesn't do for me. She is my beautiful bride, my companion and best friend in this world. I lost sight of that for many years, but having grown-up a bit, I can gladly say, that after 15 years I am still madly in love with the woman I married!!!!

[rose key]

If she does she does, if she doesn't...so be it. I love her for who she is. I don't always shave my face (she doesn't care for facial hair), but she doesn't get mad at that. She is and always will be my beautiful bride--shaved or unshaved legs, overweight or skinny, sick or healthy--for better or worse!!! The good Lord gave her to me, and I will take care of her as best I can!

I've always wanted to move to Colorado. Do they make them all like you out there? :blush:

[Autumnlyn]

I do have a strange problem that seems to be more of a women's problem than mens. I am almost always cold. At car shows people cluster under the shade, but I freeze under there. I always have to load up with sun block an long sleeves and sit in the sun or I am miserable. I swear if it is under 80* I am cold even in warm clothes. I get funny looks from people because of this. Even during the summer months I have to sleep with a thick comforter because my husband keeps the house at 74*. This is quite the issue for me in the winter too as you could well imagine. Even living here in California, when it is in the 40's I simply can not function. I shiver in a thick coat and gloves just to go to the grocery store. We have been having cooler weather for the last few days, (mid 70's to low 80's) and I have had to buy jeans to wear. Does anyone else have this kind of problem?? Maybe I have FBS Frozen Bat Syndrome:laugh::bat:


Totally!!! I feel your pain. I used to live in San Diego and unless it was disgustingly hot, I froze! Now I live in Northern California. Summer is super hot here and everyone has to use AC. And there I am with a blankie!! A swamp cooler and I'm fine...AC I freeze.

Winter is tough! Needless to say I burn ALOT of wood in the winter. I like my house warm, electric blankets, lots of socks, two pairs of pants etc. Nothing seems to help.

Hopefully it helps to know YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!

[arista]

I am one of those women who shave their legs just for me. I can't stand the prickly effect when wearing pants. Just one of my little quirks.

[poisonbat]

Have you had your thyroid function checked? I used to be so cold all the time and a few other things started going wrong as well, including depression, and it turned out that my thyroid had packed it in. Solved with one pill a day.

My thyroid died about 5 years ago. I already take a thyroid pill everyday. But this has been a problem for me all my life. :down:

Rjt, I know what you mean about stealing the heat... I do it to my husband all of the time. I got the a nick name ice burg butt from coming to bed and backing up into his back while he is sleeping:laugh:

My husband loves me and shows his love everyday. When he is home on the weekends he has no problem helping me with anything I ask him to do. He also will do things on his own that he visibly can see that needs done. However, I do not expect him to do these things. I am here during the week and make housework MY responsibility. I am quite happy with our little arraignment. :bat:

[SueC]

I guess what it comes down to is that she may not be perfect, but neither am I! I'm far from a perfect husband. I can be crude, rude, and socially unacceptable. I flirt way too much. I irritate my bride regularly, and she irritates me too. Sometimes I don't like her very much, but I always love her with all my heart.

As I said before, I don't do things for her to get something back, but because I love her and want to honor her. That is true love, ladies and gentlemen. I don't care what she does or doesn't do for me. She is my beautiful bride, my companion and best friend in this world. I lost sight of that for many years, but having grown-up a bit, I can gladly say, that after 15 years I am still madly in love with the woman I married!!!!

If you love her so much why do you flirt way too much? :eyebrow:

[Jack Frost]

If you love her so much why do you flirt way too much? :eyebrow:

It's just my personality. Very friendly and flirtatious. Heck, that's how I won my bride's heart to start with (it certainly wasn't my looks!!! lol). And after 15 years, I still love to flirt all the time with her!

[LadyPain]

If you love her so much why do you flirt way too much? :eyebrow:

Actually, studies have shown that flirting is good for us. It helps with our blood pressure and stress levels, not to mention many other things. I'm married to a wicked flirt and I am the same way. It's just a pleasurable activity.

[Kim L.]

I am one of those women who shave their legs just for me. I can't stand the prickly effect when wearing pants. Just one of my little quirks.

Me, too, although not so much in the winter.

[Jack Frost]

My thyroid died about 5 years ago. I already take a thyroid pill everyday. But this has been a problem for me all my life. :down:

Rjt, I know what you mean about stealing the heat... I do it to my husband all of the time. I got the a nick name ice burg butt from coming to bed and backing up into his back while he is sleeping:laugh:

My husband loves me and shows his love everyday. When he is home on the weekends he has no problem helping me with anything I ask him to do. He also will do things on his own that he visibly can see that needs done. However, I do not expect him to do these things. I am here during the week and make housework MY responsibility. I am quite happy with our little arraignment. :bat:


I tend to have cold feet that I like to use her legs to warm up when we crawl into bed. I keep telling her it's in the vows!!!! (you just need to read the fine print)

[smjohn]

If you love her so much why do you flirt way too much? :eyebrow:

Flirting doesn't necessarily have to mean someone wants to date someone else. I flirt with everyone. I guess maybe I have a different definition of flirtation. I think being really outgoing and friendly with people is considered flirting. Sometimes, insecure people can take it the wrong way. IMO, anyway.

[arista]

Personally, I think that there is flirting and there is being friendly. A fine line, but you know if you cross it.

[Jack Frost]

Actually, I think the fine line is between flirting and out-right HITTING on someone--actually trying to pick someone up. (Of course we're now getting into semantic definitions here).

[poisonbat]

I have been flirted with and hit on all my life. Simple flirting can be flattering at my age, but being hit on is uncool. That pisses me off to no end. It is perfectly obvious by the ring on my finger that I am married, but that doesn't mean anything to some dude that just wants a quicky. :eek2: I want to be respected as a woman, not looked at as a piece of meat. :down: I tend to ignore cat calls and stares, you get used to them after so long. There is only one man who's opinion counts to me, I like it that way. :laugh::bat:

[Jack Frost]

I have been flirted with and hit on all my life. Simple flirting can be flattering at my age, but being hit on is uncool. That pisses me off to no end. It is perfectly obvious by the ring on my finger that I am married, but that doesn't mean anything to some dude that just wants a quicky. :eek2: I want to be respected as a woman, not looked at as a piece of meat. :down: I tend to ignore cat calls and stares, you get used to them after so long. There is only one man who's opinion counts to me, I like it that way. :laugh::bat:

Hey batty, how YOU doin'? You must be tired, cuz you been runnin' through my mind all day long!!!! How 'bout a date?!?!?....oh, wait, you said you don't like getting hit on...my bad. lol :D

[SueC]

I can have a laugh and a joke with someone and wouldn't consider it flirting at all but if I was to tease someone, have a laugh but with innuendo, hold their gaze for too long, maybe touch their arm or nudge them and smile a lot then that's my idea of flirting. I agree there is a very fine line though and these days it's best not to do it with anyone other than my husband in case I get into trouble or I give the wrong impression! :biggrin2: That's happened in the past! Even when I was pregnant this bloke fancied me and came on to me and I was just joking with him. :blush:

[arista]

Women can be so "catty" sometimes. Oh my goodness, yesterday a girl in the office was wearing something that may have not been the most flattering...Well, do grown women actually have stand around discuss the unflattering attire?? I thought I was back in junior high flashback for a moment. I guess sometimes people can't resist the urge to discuss someone's fashion selections...

[TBlack]

Women can be so "catty" sometimes. Oh my goodness, yesterday a girl in the office was wearing something that may have not been the most flattering...Well, do grown women actually have stand around discuss the unflattering attire?? I thought I was back in junior high flashback for a moment. I guess sometimes people can't resist the urge to discuss someone's fashion selections...
"Linda? Do these slacks make my azz look phat?"

It's not the slacks Marge! Your azz IS fat!"

[pagantallie]

my husband looks after our son while i go out to work. He does clean and cook sometimes but spends lots of time on the internet and on the xbox 360. Most of the time we sit together in our living area, me reading SK, him playing darts or on the net....

its ok though i like it that way =)

[Jack Frost]

I can have a laugh and a joke with someone and wouldn't consider it flirting at all but if I was to tease someone, have a laugh but with innuendo, hold their gaze for too long, maybe touch their arm or nudge them and smile a lot then that's my idea of flirting. I agree there is a very fine line though and these days it's best not to do it with anyone other than my husband in case I get into trouble or I give the wrong impression! :biggrin2: That's happened in the past! Even when I was pregnant this bloke fancied me and came on to me and I was just joking with him. :blush:

Oh I completely agree, Sue--you have to be REALLY careful in how you deal with people. I've been in the same boat before with giving the wrong impression. That can be a very awkward place to be in. But it ends up being how you handle that. I make it a point to make it VERY clear that I'm just playing.

There are just those of us, men AND women alike, that just have that VERY flirtatious facet of our personalities. You learn to keep it in check, but you can't just shut it off! The only hot chick I ever actually hit on and try to pick up has this remarkably similar ring to the one I wear on my left ring-finger--go figure! She is my light, my life, and everything beautiful to me!!! To quote Solomon--"I am my beloved's, and my beloved is mine"!

[Jack Frost]

my husband looks after our son while i go out to work. He does clean and cook sometimes but spends lots of time on the internet and on the xbox 360. Most of the time we sit together in our living area, me reading SK, him playing darts or on the net....

its ok though i like it that way =)

It's not always about constantly laying there in each others arms! My wife and I are VERY silly with each other. We love to send each other silly, flirty text messages. We love to hold hands when we're out and about. We love to kiss. We love to gross out the kids by being so flirty with each other. But we also love just being around each other. Whether it be reading books, one of us playing video games...whatever!!!

[pandora]

:eek2: What am I doing?????
Tonight I'm having a slumber party....with 8 fifth grade boys! I'm like a deer in the headlights! What am I going to do?

[poisonbat]

Hey batty, how YOU doin'? You must be tired, cuz you been runnin' through my mind all day long!!!! How 'bout a date?!?!?....oh, wait, you said you don't like getting hit on...my bad. lol :D

:rofl::rofl::rofl::bat: Thanks for making me belly laugh.... I needed that this morning too funny.

[Jack Frost]

:eek2: What am I doing?????
Tonight I'm having a slumber party....with 8 fifth grade boys! I'm like a deer in the headlights! What am I going to do?

Be afraid....be VERY afraid!!!!! :eek:

[Jack Frost]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::bat: Thanks for making me belly laugh.... I needed that this morning too funny.

Happy to have made you smile!!! I was hoping you would find it funny (as I intended) and not be offended. There ain't much better than a good belly laugh!!!

[Autumnlyn]

:eek2: What am I doing?????
Tonight I'm having a slumber party....with 8 fifth grade boys! I'm like a deer in the headlights! What am I going to do?

Hide in the corner. Suck your thumb and go to your 'Happy Place'...
If that doesn't work, call your sister for back up!!!

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[smjohn]

:eek2: What am I doing?????
Tonight I'm having a slumber party....with 8 fifth grade boys! I'm like a deer in the headlights! What am I going to do?

I feel for ya sister:) Just lock 'em your son's bedroom then go hide in your bedroom:)

[arista]

Yea or Nay to the tankini swimsuit?

[pandora]

Here is what I learned from the slumber party of 9 fifth grade boys!!

#1. If they talk about someone a lot or sit to close to someone, the proper response is, "You want to have a BABY with them!"
#2. Keep the "TROFT" full! They're always hungry.
#3. Hide the drumset in your house or you'll be sorry.
#4. Don't fall asleep or you'll get sharpied!! (examples: short but funny messages, uni brows, etc.)

[Jack Frost]

Here is what I learned from the slumber party of 9 fifth grade boys!!

#1. If they talk about someone a lot or sit to close to someone, the proper response is, "You want to have a BABY with them!"
#2. Keep the "TROFT" full! They're always hungry.
#3. Hide the drumset in your house or you'll be sorry.
#4. Don't fall asleep or you'll get sharpied!! (examples: short but funny messages, uni brows, etc.)

And just think...it only gets worse as they get older!!!! (we boys NEVER grow up!!!)

[poisonbat]

Here is what I learned from the slumber party of 9 fifth grade boys!!

#1. If they talk about someone a lot or sit to close to someone, the proper response is, "You want to have a BABY with them!"
#2. Keep the "TROFT" full! They're always hungry.
#3. Hide the drumset in your house or you'll be sorry.
#4. Don't fall asleep or you'll get sharpied!! (examples: short but funny messages, uni brows, etc.)

:eek2::eyebrow::mad2::bat::rofl:

[TBlack]

:eek2: What am I doing?????
Tonight I'm having a slumber party....with 8 fifth grade boys! I'm like a deer in the headlights! What am I going to do?
I did the same thing with 7 high school girls last week (cheerleaders no less!) I cooked them all a huge tray of nachos & sent them up to "The Lounge" with half-gallons of ice cream(no bowls required---spoons only) & a stack of DVDs.
They snort when they laugh didja know... they also burp & fart...& they drool when they sleep too!
Disgusting little creatures!!!:glare:

[poisonbat]

And just think...it only gets worse as they get older!!!! (we boys NEVER grow up!!!)

As the mother of 4 boys, I concur with this statement!!! :eek2::bat:

[arista]

The women thing that I would like to discuss is women's swimsuits. Finally, the manufacturers were smart enough to realize that women need two different sizes for top and bottom. I think trying on swimsuits is so eye opening.

[LadyPain]

The women thing that I would like to discuss is women's swimsuits. Finally, the manufacturers were smart enough to realize that women need two different sizes for top and bottom. I think trying on swimsuits is so eye opening.

I haven't shopped for a swim suit in years. I can't go and spend much time in the sun anyway so there is not too much cause for it. What I found worked okay for me was a basic black tank suit with minimal ornamentation. Something kind of classic. When I was really young, I did the itsy-bitsy bikini thing, but I'm old enough now to know better and to exercise some discretion.

I was never in the place where I needed a different sized top and bottom. Lucky enough, I guess. I found that what would have been good is if the tank style one-piece was a bit longer because I was a bit longer in the waist than it was cut for. Would have been nice to have the longer legs to go with it, but I'll take what I've got.

[poisonbat]

I am VERY self conscience about my body. Just for me to take one simple snapshot I went though just about everything in my closet. I finally told my husband that he was going to have to help me, because what I see in the mirror is NOT what everyone else sees. I have something wrong with me, where when I look at myself, I see a very fat girl. I can look at the scale in the morning and see that I have indeed lost weight, lots of it. But I still have such a poor body image that I find it hard to believe. Any way this is about swim suits right??? I wear a simple black one piece that kinda covers everything really well. My husband would love to see me in a 2 piece, but understands that I just can not do that. I guess the one thing that really keeps me from a 2 piece is the fact that I still have the loose skin thing on my belly from popping out 3 kids. The skin is stretched and there is NOTHING I can do about it. I have built up my abs but that stupid skin will always be there. :glare: :bat:

[TBlack]

I think trying on swimsuits is so eye opening.
I've always found women in swimsuits to be an eye opener too!
I almost typed fly!

[Jack Frost]

I am VERY self conscience about my body. Just for me to take one simple snapshot I went though just about everything in my closet. I finally told my husband that he was going to have to help me, because what I see in the mirror is NOT what everyone else sees. I have something wrong with me, where when I look at myself, I see a very fat girl. I can look at the scale in the morning and see that I have indeed lost weight, lots of it. But I still have such a poor body image that I find it hard to believe. Any way this is about swim suits right??? I wear a simple black one piece that kinda covers everything really well. My husband would love to see me in a 2 piece, but understands that I just can not do that. I guess the one thing that really keeps me from a 2 piece is the fact that I still have the loose skin thing on my belly from popping out 3 kids. The skin is stretched and there is NOTHING I can do about it. I have built up my abs but that stupid skin will always be there. :glare: :bat:

Sounds like your husband still finds you very attractive! Relish that! I suffer from a poor self-image too, but I know my wife still finds me sexy after 15 years--that keeps me smilin'!

[boogerb53]

I am VERY self conscience about my body. Just for me to take one simple snapshot I went though just about everything in my closet. I finally told my husband that he was going to have to help me, because what I see in the mirror is NOT what everyone else sees. I have something wrong with me, where when I look at myself, I see a very fat girl. I can look at the scale in the morning and see that I have indeed lost weight, lots of it. But I still have such a poor body image that I find it hard to believe. Any way this is about swim suits right??? I wear a simple black one piece that kinda covers everything really well. My husband would love to see me in a 2 piece, but understands that I just can not do that. I guess the one thing that really keeps me from a 2 piece is the fact that I still have the loose skin thing on my belly from popping out 3 kids. The skin is stretched and there is NOTHING I can do about it. I have built up my abs but that stupid skin will always be there. :glare: :bat:

Honey! We are kindered spirits! I used to way 305 pounds. For many years I maintained around 140 to 150. I'm 5-9 and wore size 9 so I was nice and curvy. Over the years, the excess skin and belly fat wore away so I FINALLY looked good in and out of my clothes. I lost 5 pounds on purpose then another 15 due to changes in my life and now my husband tells me I'm boney and people have no problem telling me to eat a cheese burger. But you know what I see when I look in the mirror?..... You got it! 305 pounds of fat girl! It's all about self image. People can tell you things and it feels good and builds your ego up but at the end of the day, it's the person inside you have to convince! BTW, I saw your picture and you look beautiful! Congratulations on your hard work paying off.

[Jack Frost]

...HOLY CRAP, girl!!! Just look at your pics on your profile. You look AWESOME!!!!!:eek2:

[neptune]

anybody out there

[LadyPain]

Wow, I just checked out our lovely poisonbat.... I'm not ashamed to say my jaw dropped. You look great, girlie!

[arista]

Well, today's woman topic..Water and swimsuits...I finally going to don the swimsuit I purchased the other day. I bought a swimsuit coverup, because I have been working out faithfully, just don't have that much confidence. Why is it that guys can wear anything and not feel self conscious??

[poisonbat]

anybody out there

Yes we are all here. :eyebrow::bat:

[SueC]

You look beautiful poisonbat and congratulations on the weight loss! Hubby looks pretty good too! :laugh:

[Cowboy]

Well, today's woman topic..Water and swimsuits...I finally going to don the swimsuit I purchased the other day. I bought a swimsuit coverup, because I have been working out faithfully, just don't have that much confidence. Why is it that guys can wear anything and not feel self conscious??

We know we are unattractive...hair, knobby knees....by the time we reach adulthood, we have accepted that fact that and don't care anymore. :smile2:

[Jack Frost]

Well, today's woman topic..Water and swimsuits...I finally going to don the swimsuit I purchased the other day. I bought a swimsuit coverup, because I have been working out faithfully, just don't have that much confidence. Why is it that guys can wear anything and not feel self conscious??

Baloney!!!!! I'm VERY self-conscious, especially if putting on a swimsuit. I used be Mr. Slim and Trim. Unfortunately that's not quite the case anymore. With a bit of a belly, I HATE going swimming right now. I think women obsess about it a bit more, but I for one am a man who hates looking overweight!!!

[Natjen26]

I used to be self-conscious too, but then one day I stopped caring about it. I have a almost-husband who loves the way I look and I felt that was enough. I started swimming again. Allthough the first time I wasn't totally sure I was up to it. I went fine and I'm up to twice a week being seen in a swimsuit, to my very own surprise.
I had to buy a swimsuit for that first occasion, it must have been three years since I thrown my last one away.

But then again everytime I see a man look at me, I'm wondering: Does he think I'm fat, ugly? Then I blush and try to ignore it. And when someone tells me I look good, I don't believe it, then the first thing that comes to mind is that they are just polite or don't want to hurt my feelings.
I envy the women who are comfortable with who they are, but then again who knows what they think of themselves! :oo:

[arista]

Well, let me tell everyone the aquatic park experience...I was so self conscious at first, but then I realized that there were women who had a lot more flesh exposed with a lot more to expose and I felt okay..

[Theregulator]

I am VERY self conscience about my body. Just for me to take one simple snapshot I went though just about everything in my closet. I finally told my husband that he was going to have to help me, because what I see in the mirror is NOT what everyone else sees. I have something wrong with me, where when I look at myself, I see a very fat girl. I can look at the scale in the morning and see that I have indeed lost weight, lots of it. But I still have such a poor body image that I find it hard to believe. Any way this is about swim suits right??? I wear a simple black one piece that kinda covers everything really well. My husband would love to see me in a 2 piece, but understands that I just can not do that. I guess the one thing that really keeps me from a 2 piece is the fact that I still have the loose skin thing on my belly from popping out 3 kids. The skin is stretched and there is NOTHING I can do about it. I have built up my abs but that stupid skin will always be there. :glare: :bat:

I know exactly how you feel. Having been overweight from childhood and my teens, I will always see myself in that way whatever the scales say. I have had a lot of ops on my stomach so will never feel good about that. I do find I can get things more in perspective the older I get however.
You look fab by the way.

[arista]

Oh need to mention that the aquatic park experience rocks..

[Jack Frost]

Oh need to mention that the aquatic park experience rocks..

Glad to hear you had a good time and were also able to relax your fears a bit!!!