N. Koreans Eating Their Children To Stay Alive?

[Out of Order]

According to some reports.........

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/1432366/Famine-struck-N-Koreans-eating-children.html

[not_nadine]

I have no words.

[fljoe0]

That's pretty awful if it's true. the North Koreans are in a desperate state and have been for a long time. I have heard that even birds and other animals are hard to find because they've all been eaten.

What I don't understand about this whole situation is what it is the government of North Korea is trying to accomplish by cutting themselves off like they do. They don't have anything that any other country wants so I'm not sure what they are so paranoid about. South Korea and China along with many other nations are perfectly willing to help them if they would just try and get along with everyone else. I can't figure out what N Korea (the government) thinks it's trying to accomplish by threatening countries and lobbing missiles at them.

[Lily Sawyer]

...and the Telegraph is a respected source. I can hardly stand reading about this, it makes me so sad. MSN also has taken reports from the Asia News Press that this is probably happening:
http://now.msn.com/north-korea-cannibalism-stories-are-being-reported-due-to-famine

Shame on Pyongyang. Shame on them.

[guido tkp]

wow...how depressing, if true...and let's face it, i guess i wouldn't really be all that surprised that it might just be.

it really shows how bad all of our efforts have been

that is exactly the sort of thing that starts revolutions...before you get around to killing your kids and eating/selling their flesh

i'm not by any stretch an interventionist...but, if i were president, and this were proven true...i'd have to think very seriously about using the absolute best methods to identify and lay waste to every govt building in NK, especially military and police...take 'em all out

send in the drones

[guido tkp]

why would we try to understand madness ?
it, in and of itself, does not make sense

shame, my dear friend, is no longer good enough...if all this is true

despite my other post, i'm not sure what more we can do...but clearly nothing is working...if we can aid efforts to foment revolution in other areas..why not there

surely there are nk's and sk's willing to do something about all this ??

[Out of Order]

That's pretty awful if it's true. the North Koreans are in a desperate state and have been for a long time. I have heard that even birds and other animals are hard to find because they've all been eaten.

I'm thinking that the local fishing hole is pretty much a thing of the past in NK.


What I don't understand about this whole situation is what it is the government of North Korea is trying to accomplish by cutting themselves off like they do. They don't have anything that any other country wants so I'm not sure what they are so paranoid about. South Korea and China along with many other nations are perfectly willing to help them if they would just try and get along with everyone else. I can't figure out what N Korea (the government) thinks it's trying to accomplish by threatening countries and lobbing missiles at them.

Hard to explain. Those in charge in NK certainly don't think their own people are the country's most valuable resource.

[fushingfeef]

Isolationism is typical of totalitarian regimes. This is analagous to households run by abusive parents--they don't let in outside influences so they can maintain total control of the child, convinced that outside influences are bad, much to the detriment of the children.

[PatInTheHat]

North Korea has in a relative few generations turned into arguably the worlds largest cult, at least that's what now I'm thinkin'.
How great Hawkeye & pals got their ceasefire...ya know somethin', most, if not all, of the fellas I've known who served & fought in Korea are now dead from old age, and I have to wonder how many citizens are even aware we're still officially 'in conflict' (or remember that we even were), and we're just operating under that going on six decade long cease fire.

[Amphiaraus]

I can't figure out what N Korea (the government) thinks it's trying to accomplish by threatening countries and lobbing missiles at them.

While it's possible that cannabalism is occuring in North Korea, it's not very probable. Navi Pillay, the head of the United Nation's Human Rights Commission, however, is calling for an in-depth investigation of human rights abuses that are occuring in North Korea's network of detention facilites.

According to Pillay, at least 200,000 people have been subjected to rape, torture, summary execution and slave labour; all these abuses are considered crimes against humanity, she said, and Kin Jung-Un's government has been complicit in their occurrence. North Korea, predictably, has denied these claims.

As for the "lobbing [of North Korean] missles," I think (currently) the West has more reason to be alarmed about Iran's latest accomplishment: putting a monkey into orbit. Seriously. Why? Well, in addition to the aim of developing a "fat boy" type of nuclear bomb (it's the reason Iran has been building all those gas diffusers; Israel ought to forget about the plutonium-producing power plants, in my opinion, and start looking at the refineries), it's not too much more of a step in developing a cost-effective Project Thor-type orbiting platform: kenetic bombarment systems are probably the cheapest buck possible when it comes to getting the biggest and most accurate bang.

(Also, it's darn tough for a missile interceptor (a gloriously expensive program that the Defense Industry absolutely loves!) to shoot down a short-trajectory giant crowbar, though they're of some vaguely strategic value, I suppose, in intercepting, and thus detering, the random incontinental ballistic missile that's (possibly) been tipped with a front-heavy nuclear bomb and which will take a few minutes for a rogue nation (like Canada - I wouldn't them darn Canucks!) to lob in the direction of the good old U.S. of A.)

Of course all this is just my opinion :wink2:

[guido tkp]

i don't know, amphi...they're definately spending some time/effort/what little $$ they have on weapons and such...not on their people...

...and these days, anythings possible: if i had a dollar for every time i've heard someone say 'anyone can make a rocket' or somesuch...i could buy two candy bars !!

there are alot of creepy stories about nk that have been floated about and many have come to be true...things astonsihing and brutal

still...it sees to me that the entire population would have to be blinkingly insane to let it get this far...time'll tell...the light is now shining on this nad i don't think it'll go away until, one way or the other, the truth will out...but...

if the nk govt starts 'arresting' people for this 'crime'...then you know the new cover-up has commenced

and, now, for something completely different...can you imagine what the menu would look like...oh, no, you KNOW you do NOT want to look...so... don't read on ...but i can't help myself...

would the menu include chicken fried bryce ? moo goo gai stan ? how about real generals toes chicken...should i stop now...aw, heck no !! would you like a legroll with that, sir...

..i will now take myself to the wood shed...yeesh, just a few days ago, i knew i wouldn't ever get a real unka stevie autograph...now, i think he'll just have rolands shoot me in the next DT novel next year and put me otta your misery...wait, there's a joke in there...somewhere..really, i am your numba won ton fan !!

[Shasta]

That's pretty awful if it's true. the North Koreans are in a desperate state and have been for a long time. I have heard that even birds and other animals are hard to find because they've all been eaten.

What I don't understand about this whole situation is what it is the government of North Korea is trying to accomplish by cutting themselves off like they do. They don't have anything that any other country wants so I'm not sure what they are so paranoid about. South Korea and China along with many other nations are perfectly willing to help them if they would just try and get along with everyone else. I can't figure out what N Korea (the government) thinks it's trying to accomplish by threatening countries and lobbing missiles at them.

They're trying to keep their people from knowing how badly they have it. They are concerned they will revolt. Many, many people don't know that others don't live like they do.

[mjs9153]

Coincidence that this story comes out a few days after their exalted leader threatens to launch a nuclear weapon,to prove his alleged prowess to the West in general and America specifically? Don't know but sure sounds like we might be ramping up for another war..hope not,but unfortunately it seems this guy is spoiling for a fight.

[GNTLGNT]

...oh dear god....

[Todash]

They're trying to keep their people from knowing how badly they have it. They are concerned they will revolt. Many, many people don't know that others don't live like they do.

This is true. If you do some reading about NK, you will see that, as Pat said, it really is the world's biggest cult. The people in general are not crazy, guido_tkp. They are brainwashed; they don't know any different. It's really sad, the world's most unethical mind control experiment. I hope this story is an exaggeration, but North Koreans in general are malnourished. The average military conscript stands just under 54 inches. That's four and a half feet. Yes, they're Asian, and yes, Asian people tend to be a little shorter than Europeans, but that is TINY.

Whether the story is true on a widespread or not, the leaders of North Korea are evil. EVIL.

[guido tkp]

but...for all these years...part or all of the truth keeps leaking out...time and time again...like in every other place where this form of idiocy reigns...

so, just who do they think they are fooling ?

i understand the brainwashing part...but that doesn't expain some of the evil things people are doing there and getting away with everyday...this cannabalism, if it is occuring, is just a tip of the iceberg at how this regime has decimated families/family units...

but this was not the norm in that country, even just 50-60 years ago: they did not always do that...

countrywide brainwashing of all people is pretty hard to pull off...this is complicity on the part of too many in nk and around the world...this sort of complicit attitude was/is endemic to begin with, ingrained in the ideology of the people to begin with...follow the leader, the leader knows all is not something the kims just thought up

heck...they got frikkin rock and roll and beatles records in russia throughout the cold war...and they were just as totalitarian...

[tenngolfer]

Sounds like a revolution maybe around the corner. Even brainwashed people will have breaking limits.

[guido tkp]

that would be my hope...i'd much rather have them, the nk's, get finally tired of it...and do something...

[mjs9153]

[QUOTE=Todash;563070]This is true. If you do some reading about NK, you will see that, as Pat said, it really is the world's biggest cult. The people in general are not crazy, guido_tkp. They are brainwashed; they don't know any different. It's really sad, the world's most unethical mind control experiment. I hope this story is an exaggeration, but North Koreans in general are malnourished. The average military conscript stands just under 54 inches. That's four and a half feet. Yes, they're Asian, and yes, Asian people tend to be a little shorter than Europeans, but that is TINY.


Yep,I saw a video piece as well,not sure if it was sixty minutes or whatever,interviewing school children in N Korea.They seemed to have a real hatred for America,not just put on for their govt minders or the cameras,they really had some disturbing thoughts about wanting America to fail and our people to be killed..what will stop these people in the end? You may laugh,but I believe the net,which is making inroads in China,where people it seems are beginning to question their unswerving loyalty to that regime..just my opinion,anecdotal based on news stories,but the next ten years are going to be fascinating..if we make it through them without a major world war.:eyebrow:

[guido tkp]

funny you should mention the net, mjs...i'm thinking maybe we should find a way to disseminate cellphones w/full apps...maybe have our drones drop them all over the country, fully loaded, like we used to do candy bars in WW2...and let them see what is really going on

one burger king ad might spark a revolution

[shipwreked]

Moral of the story is... Politics matter.

[Out of Order]

funny you should mention the net, mjs...i'm thinking maybe we should find a way to disseminate cellphones w/full apps...maybe have our drones drop them all over the country, fully loaded, like we used to do candy bars in WW2...and let them see what is really going on

A few leaflets dropped in a few well placed spots might do the trick.

Something needs to be done if this story is true...........

[fushingfeef]

I know this is totally wrong but I saw this thread right under the "Favorite Cookbooks" thread and my first thought was Mike Myer's "Fat Bastard" character singing about babyback ribs.:devil:

Don't hate me!

[kingricefan]

funny you should mention the net, mjs...i'm thinking maybe we should find a way to disseminate cellphones w/full apps...maybe have our drones drop them all over the country, fully loaded, like we used to do candy bars in WW2...and let them see what is really going on

one burger king ad might spark a revolution

As brainwashed as the NK people appear to be, dropping 'fully loaded' cell phones down to them would be akin to aliens dropping something similar down onto our major cities. If it happened, I just don't think that the NK people would believe it anyway, would they? It would be 'propaganda from the Westerns'.

[not_nadine]

I know this is totally wrong but I saw this thread right under the "Favorite Cookbooks" thread and my first thought was Mike Myer's "Fat Bastard" character singing about babyback ribs.:devil:

Don't hate me!

I saw the same thing Feef. :eek2:

[guido tkp]

no way i could mad at you, FF :wink2:

OoO: on that leaflets idea...how about all fastfood coupons...w/directions to SK nearest

KRF: possibly...but, if done correctly, it might just eventually do some good: better than what we've been doing for the past 50-60 years, that's for sure...what if they came wrapped in a box with some scrumptious goodies, too ?!?!!


SW: what the heck is that supposed to mean...'splain yo'seff, puhleeze...fill the room with your eloquence