The Real Ending to The Dark Tower

[wisemo]

I'm by no means a writer, but I can at least read. For the love of god Stephen please give Roland Peace and rewrite the ending to the Dark Tower, here is the tale of really what happened from the beam to me. For you fell victim to the Crimson King. So here's what really happened to Roland you can use this to rewrite the ending and to set things right.

Last night after 8 years I figured out the real ending to the book. Spoiler if you have not read.
Rolands Redemption Song.

When Roland reaches the top of the tower he see's the door with his name on it but before he opens it he reaches down to his side to touch the horn of cuthbert, and the flash of his story to date happens before his eyes, he decides not to open the door but go back down the tower, and enter the door to save susan before she is burned alive he enters the world just in time to save her he enters through a magic door above Susan and tells the people he is Author Eld and what there doing is wrong as Ruu of the Coo that witch bitch tries to open her mouth Roland blows her brains out, he then frees Susan and rides of to meet up with Roland finding him right before the pink glam is going to whisk him away and show him the tower, at that moment he shoots the pink ball shattering it forever, but young Roland in reaction shoots Roland who falls to the ground dying, young Roland is united with Susan but confused at who the old stranger might be, Susan tells him it's Author Eld himself come back to save her, dying Roland says ah Gunslinger death for me but never for you, at this point a crow(Martin) watching the seen seeing the glam has been destroyed and Roland lays dying flies off when the crow is suddenly nailed by a hawk, instantly the crow transforms into Martin and the hawk is attacking his face and in an instant he is shot dead by both the old and young Roland. Then Roland with his dying breath says Long days and pleasant nights I go to my clearing. Then he wakes up in that rc fake cola, merker scropio world where he is in front of a great feast next to an older Susan it is Christmas and all his family is there his son Jake, eddie dean and his wife Detta Dean, his old friend Cuthbert and Alain and the 3 old guys who took care of the rose all those years, and Oy as a golden shepard and a parrot named david squaking beans beans, and Rolands mom and dad sitting in rockers and in the middle of the table is the most spectacular rose as we zoom in on the rose where transported to a different scene, where back in Gilied at an even more spectacular feast celebrating the defeat of John Farson and the marriage of Roland and Susan, and this time everyone is still alive Stephen, Rolands mom, Cort, Vannay. It ends with Roland and Susan kissing and everyone cheering, then we leave this scene and go to the tower but the crimson king has arrived at the entrance to the field of roses and in his hand is one of rolands guns perhaps the gun thrown away by detta walker in a certain trash can. He thinks he has finally figured how to enter the tower but unfortunately he is attacked by a huge bear he is one of the 12 guardians the crimson king turns into a spider and starts to quickly run away only to find himself pursued by all the guardians but the crimson king escapes into a cave where he gets away, accept its not a cave at all but the mouth of a giant turtle the guardian, and the crimson king was his lunch. The End and that's how the story really ends, because Stephen himself said this is not his story he was merely channeling the tale but he could no longer here the music but I have finally set things straight so Stephen you need to write a wrong how could you ever do that to Roland you got lazy and forgot the face of your father, this is not your story but I have now set things right so fix it, or I will Misery your ass.

[JohnDalglish]

Hi,

Welcome to the MB, and keep posting!

But the DT ending is absolutely perfect as it is.

Ka is a wheel.

Long days and pleasant nights

[Spideyman]

AWJDS ( and what JohnD says ) Ka is a wheel. Ending as it is written.

[wisemo]

Nah the real ending is way better then the terrible one Stephen came up with, everyone knows that man does not know how to end a story most of the time. Ka is a wheel and this ending fixes that paradox giving Roland Peace and considering there is know telling how many times he has quested for the tower the peace is well deserved. For the tower was the story of his life after all, so know he has a new story to spin.

[Moderator]

It clearly wasn't the ending you wanted but it is Steve's ending. Roland found some redemption but he'd still made serious mistakes along the way so had not reached his last turn of the wheel. With the horn, we are left with the idea that he'll probably do better the next time.

[JohnDalglish]

Nah the real ending is way better then the terrible one Stephen came up with, everyone knows that man does not know how to end a story most of the time. Ka is a wheel and this ending fixes that paradox giving Roland Peace and considering there is know telling how many times he has quested for the tower the peace is well deserved. For the tower was the story of his life after all, so know he has a new story to spin.

Hi

Sorry but you're talking sh.. you-know-what (rhymes with wit), my man.

Keep taking the medication until the course is finished.

Long days and pleasant nights

[wisemo]

Roland gave everything to save the tower, himself everyone he ever loved, and you feel this ending is fair no this ending was written by Randall Flagg himself, a false ending this is not Stephen's story he has even admitted it himself in the book, hell he even admitted his ending was a bad one in the damn book, you could tell he was mad he could not figure out how to end the book, because he could no longer here the turtle's song so he let the darkside take over, if anyone deserves to be punished it's Stephen and not Roland, Roland gave it everything and deserves peace, and did get his peace, it's Stephen who could never find peace and that's why he could never figure out a way to end the paradox, but I have channeled the true ending and it wraps up everything and gives Roland his well deserved peace.

[Moderator]

You must have read a different ending than I did because I don't see that at all in either the Coda or the Author's notes which I just reread before answering in case I was misremembering. I will say again, you have apparently come up with the ending that suits you but it is not the one Steve intended.

[bobledrew]

Wisemo, you may want to work on some of the basic skills of writing and on getting the names of characters right, etc. This would help your ideas to be taken more seriously. Besides, I believe the dropping of the Horn is written in one of the earlier books, making your ending impossible. Will verify that.

[Spideyman]

Wisemo, mayhap a re read of the entire DT series would help you to understand the ending with clearer thoughts. One must remember too, that it was the journey, not the destination- which IMHO was as the muse spoke- that counts. Start by re reading the first paragraph of the Coda. "I've told my tale all the way to the end, an am satisfied........". I think Sai King knew the ending when he began the journey:wink2:

[wisemo]

Well my ending is possible if it's on the loop where he still has the horn, and I assure you my ending is very possible, because it came to me directly from the Beam itself and is the true ending of the story.

[wisemo]

Plus I stated right of I am by no means a writer, but that does not mean this is not the true ending of the story, ah real ending real peace, an end to the paradox, here Roland soul is saved, the dark tower is saved, and Gilead is saved and that was what Roland was trying to do all along.

[wisemo]

I could care less about Stephen King and his inability to end this story, I care about Roland and that is the truth, and he now has peace his true mission has been accomplished.

[91rewoT]

Wisemo, I respect your opinion, but have to interject here, because you're scaring me man, with talk about "punishing" Stephen!!! Please keep in mind that The Dark Tower is Stephen King's story. He wrote it and the ending is HIS ending. I didn't much like the ending the first time I read it. In fact, I was pretty pi$$ed about it. BUT, after stewing for a few days I came to the realization that it was the ONLY ending that made sense. You may come to that realization one day too...if you don't, then I hope you find your own peace because you sound like you need it very badly.

[wisemo]

This is the true ending, sorry i'm not a great writer, but it does not stop the facts. This ending is flawless it wraps up the paradox by having Roland live his life and never pursue the tower at the same time it elimates the threats to the tower being Martin and the Crimson King, it is a logical ending to the story, and makes everything come full circle, and accomplishes Rolands true goal to restore Gilead, it's the end of the wheel gives Roland peace, restores Gilead and saves the tower all at the same time, how you can say this is not the best ending and the true ending is beyond me. I know this because im 19 and have answered the riddle to how the story really ends. I'm 19 because I was born on 7/19/1981. 7 books in the dark tower series, 19 as the date of my birth, and 1981 adds up to 1+9+8+1= 19 this is why I'm the one who gets the riddle fair goose. Your just jelous on how flawless this ending is, and wish you had found a way to give Roland the peace he deserves.

[GNTLGNT]

Presumptuous, thy name is wisemo....I gotta give you cred for having the chutzpah to actually think YOU could give writing advice to one of the Modern Masters of story and pacing-however, having said that-it's as Ms. Mod says-you devised your OWN ending to satisfy YOU-not the rest of the true Constant Readers...we may not have liked the ending-but upon further reflection, you realize the true genius of it...I wish Old Yeller hadn't had to die either, but I wasn't about to send Walt Disney Productions another script-sometimes Skippy, you just have to put up with and try to understand things you don't like-but don't set yourself above someone that has decades of experience, and expect them to bend to your whims...

[hubbard53]

This is the true ending, sorry i'm not a great writer, but it does not stop the facts. This ending is flawless it wraps up the paradox by having Roland live his life and never pursue the tower at the same time it elimates the threats to the tower being Martin and the Crimson King, it is a logical ending to the story, and makes everything come full circle, and accomplishes Rolands true goal to restore Gilead, it's the end of the wheel gives Roland peace, restores Gilead and saves the tower all at the same time, how you can say this is not the best ending and the true ending is beyond me. I know this because im 19 and have answered the riddle to how the story really ends. I'm 19 because I was born on 7/19/1981. 7 books in the dark tower series, 19 as the date of my birth, and 1981 adds up to 1+9+8+1= 19 this is why I'm the one who gets the riddle fair goose. Your just jelous on how flawless this ending is, and wish you had found a way to give Roland the peace he deserves.

whoa.... i dont participate much but this post caught my eye. Unless you're being purposely 'off', I suggest you talk to your doctor. Anyone can be an armchair psychologist, and to think a diagnosis can be performed in one random forum post is ludicrous, but you sir, if being serious, may have something askew cognitively - one disorder in particular becomes apparent at your age...

[wisemo]

I have read the dark tower many times, and have then listened to the damn thing on tape more times than that, this is why I was able to finally figure out a flawless ending, everyone is complaining about it yet no one is able to deny it being possible. Plus Stephen himself admits in the book it is not his story, so stop telling me it is, it's not that's why he got it wrong that's why I am able to fix it. This story is no more his, then the story the men wrote in the bible, this story belongs to only one man and that's Roland, and he set out to restore Gilead and to fix what went wrong with his world. Just because Stephen couldn't figure out how to do it shows his ending to be false. But I don't blame him he had been writing the book for over 20 years he just wanted to end it already, he never really was very good at seeing around corners so he took the easy way out, he has even admitted to coming up with a better ending along time ago and loosing his idea. I mean it took me 8 years to relies how Roland was able to fix things but I never gave up wondering how it was possible for Roland to finally receive his redemption. So shame on all of you for taking Stephens side, me I only care about Roland.

[wisemo]

There's only 2 men in this world I love who are not my family, and that's Roland and Warren Zevon. Plus there's only one opinion I would value on my ending being good are bad and that's Mr King himself.

[JohnDalglish]

this is why I was able to finally figure out a flawless ending.... he got it wrong that's why I am able to fix it.... Just because Stephen couldn't figure out how to do it shows his ending to be false. But I don't blame him..... . So shame on all of you for taking Stephens side, me I only care about Roland.

Hi,

Hmmm, so low self esteem isn't your issue then.

Long days and pleasant nights

[GLewman]

Hahahahahaha!!! This thread is AWESOME! :wow::eek2:

[JohnDalglish]

There's only 2 men in this world I love who are not my family, and that's Roland and Warren Zevon.

Hi,

Umm, which part of 'fiction' do you not understand?

Long days and pleasant nihghts

[fushingfeef]

...it came to me directly from the Beam itself ...Your just jelous on how flawless this ending is

So is this how you are in real life, or just on message boards? Methinks we're being messed with by a troll.

[muskrat]

Whew, Johnny D--You rarely get this fiesty! Sweet!

The way I've always seen it, Roland HAS to keep going, in circles (or Ka wheels, do ya) until...well, god forbid, Stephen dies. That's the only real ending to the Tower saga, folks. Most, if not all, of King's fiction is tied to the Tower; as long as it stands, it will be threatened by the Crimson King and his minions, and ol' Roland must always be there to back 'em off. I dunno...just kinda how I see it.

Besides, it aint the destination, but the JOURNEY that matters. People are SO obsessed with damn endings these days--if the last page doesn't blow their heads off they whine and moan. Whattaya want? A tacky, M. Night Shamylan twist? Oh, Henry...grow up!

[Utterpaj]

I actually LOVED the ending to the books, I think if Stephen wrote what actually was in the tower, whatever it might have been, I think people would be dissapointed. I didn't want to know what was in the tower, because I knew I was going to be dissapointed! So I think it was the best ending, because it hasn't really end has it? He got a new chance to make everything different when the Tower gave him the Horn. So it started over again with Roland chasing the man in black through the desert.

[RandomMan]

Now that you mention it...I believe that I'm the chosen one...therefore I should conclude the Dark Tower. After all, I was born in the year 1972 (add those puppies) to be more specific 04-15-72 (Oh, S-N-A-P). I too was once Nineteen. Due to an accident on an ATV...I lost my pinky finger on my right hand...Count those digits (yep, I got 19) When I lost my finger the pain was excruciating and I ended up hooked on pain killers...want to guess how many of those I popped a day???? To support my drug habit i began robbing and stealing...got caught on 19 counts...I be damned if I didn't get 19 years. hahaha...I can go all day!

Seriously I love your passion...but it is not real...Roland is a character!! A GREAT one, in a GREAT story!!!! with a great ending...give it a few years...it will sink in.

[JellybeanJay]

This is the true ending, sorry i'm not a great writer, but it does not stop the facts. This ending is flawless it wraps up the paradox by having Roland live his life and never pursue the tower at the same time it elimates the threats to the tower being Martin and the Crimson King, it is a logical ending to the story, and makes everything come full circle, and accomplishes Rolands true goal to restore Gilead, it's the end of the wheel gives Roland peace, restores Gilead and saves the tower all at the same time, how you can say this is not the best ending and the true ending is beyond me. I know this because im 19 and have answered the riddle to how the story really ends. I'm 19 because I was born on 7/19/1981. 7 books in the dark tower series, 19 as the date of my birth, and 1981 adds up to 1+9+8+1= 19 this is why I'm the one who gets the riddle fair goose. Your just jelous on how flawless this ending is, and wish you had found a way to give Roland the peace he deserves.

Wow, you really put a lot of thought into the 19 thing hey?!? Too bad you didn't put that much thought into your previous posts in this thread.

[JellybeanJay]

I have read the dark tower many times, and have then listened to the damn thing on tape more times than that, this is why I was able to finally figure out a flawless ending, everyone is complaining about it yet no one is able to deny it being possible. Plus Stephen himself admits in the book it is not his story, so stop telling me it is, it's not that's why he got it wrong that's why I am able to fix it. This story is no more his, then the story the men wrote in the bible, this story belongs to only one man and that's Roland, and he set out to restore Gilead and to fix what went wrong with his world. Just because Stephen couldn't figure out how to do it shows his ending to be false. But I don't blame him he had been writing the book for over 20 years he just wanted to end it already, he never really was very good at seeing around corners so he took the easy way out, he has even admitted to coming up with a better ending along time ago and loosing his idea. I mean it took me 8 years to relies how Roland was able to fix things but I never gave up wondering how it was possible for Roland to finally receive his redemption. So shame on all of you for taking Stephens side, me I only care about Roland.


You know its just a story right?

[JellybeanJay]

Hahahahahaha!!! This thread is AWESOME! :wow::eek2:

I agree. Its a riot!:laugh:

Its gotta be a troll, no one is this seriously messed up right?

[wisemo]

I would like someone to actually find a flaw to me wrapping everything up, then just trolling me and calling me crazy, and yes I am that crazy crazy enough to set things right.

[Moderator]

There's nothing stopping you from doing that for yourself and if it helps you sleep at night, then go for it. But the version that Steve wrote is the one that stands.

[JohnDalglish]

if it helps you sleep at night, then go for it. .

Hi,

That's what the medication's for.

Long days and pkeasant nights

[GLewman]

I would like someone to actually find a flaw to me wrapping everything up, then just trolling me and calling me crazy, and yes I am that crazy crazy enough to set things right.

I love you wisemo...you actually make me sound reasonable...hahaha...Since you are so passionate about this, how about fixing the end of Under the Dome...I found the ending of that one left something to be desired :)

[RandomMan]

This board has the nicest people that you will ever chat with...and are usually respectful of opinions when presented correctly. I don't think anyone is riding you because you don't like the ending...there have been many who shared their thoughts on the ending to DT...pro and con. It is the way you are going about it like a mad man!!! You can't expect to post the stuff you are...attacking and threatening SK...and not get ridiculed a little...or a lot. And it seems that you are a little out of touch...no offense!

I actually like you...in a CRAZY kind of way!

[wisemo]

It occurs to me that none of you love Roland at all, your not gunslingers, your all minions of the Crimson King, a bunch of yes men for Sai King himself. Only heartless people would damn a man to Rolands fate, shame on all of you I give you a chance to stand up and save Roland to bring him peace, to let him accomplish what he truly set out to do, and you all are just satisfied leaving him in hell, well I did not quest all those years to leave him hanging I found a way to save his soul and by god I did it, I saved Roland, the tower and Gilied, I saved Susan, and Cort, and everyone just like Roland wanted, but I can save none of you for your all damned now to Rolands original curse, forever stuck in a loop never figuring out a way to save your soul. Maybe one day you'll be able to accept the white but for now you dwell in darkness good luck with that, but my Roland got his redemption and I suggest you all seek the same.

[~Ally~]

:rofl:

Man, what a great thread to start the New Year on.
Wisemo; yer kinda funny...I genuinely hope that's your real intention here.
If not, I'm sorry. :sad:

[Moderator]

Wisemo, I say this with the utmost respect for your feelings--it is obvious you feel passionately about this but IMO you have crossed the line into obsession with a fictional character. Roland is not real and does not have a soul to be saved. As a work of fiction, you are free to come to your own conclusions about how the ending should have been instead of what Steve has written but that is where it ends. We're at the point where we will have to agree to disagree and move on.

[wisemo]

I agree to disagree but it is my goal for Stephen to at least read and see the idea and then decide for himself. I think you might be surprised, he might actually like the idea, and it's just an outline, so i'm sure he could write it a million times better but at least the outline for redemption is there I believe my conclusion to be a solid one that could be probable on one of the loops to the tower. With that said I challenge others to write there own ideas for the ending, be they serious, a joke, are the worse way to end it. I will agree everyone is very respectable on this forum, and with that I say thank you Sai, long days and pleasant nights, and remember there are other worlds then this, and that damn Wisemo runs threw all of them.
:biggrin2:

[JohnDalglish]

i'm sure he could write it a million times better

Hi,

Ya think?

Well, maybe so or maybe so.

I think he already wrote a brilliant ending, and I suggest you read it again.

Long days and pleasant nights

[wisemo]

Does anyone know how I could get a hold of Mr. King?

[Sigmund]

... your all minions ....

Happy New Year! 2011! We are all minions...again. :eyebrow::laugh:

[GLewman]

Wisemo; yer kinda funny...I genuinely hope that's your real intention here.

Haha Ally :) I have a feeling wisemo is a fanboy that maybe hung around the World of Warcraft MB a little too long...Reading his posts is like watching the proverbial "trainwreck"...I say post away wisemo! I'm not allowed to say this on here, but you are the most entertaining and interesting person to post in a while...keep up the good work :)

P.S. I'm starting to become serious when I say you should "improve" some of SK's other endings....but I have a feeling your time here is short so you better haul a$$...lolol

[GNTLGNT]

...and the Looney Tunes theme plays on....(sorry Ms. Mod-couldn't stop meself, I'm a born leverpuller...said in his best Beatlesque voice from Yellow Submarine)

[BethicaJ]

I would like someone to actually find a flaw to me wrapping everything up, then just trolling me and calling me crazy, and yes I am that crazy crazy enough to set things right.

Flaw #1....Stephen King made millions of dollars on these books. Alot of this money comes from one person reading the book and recommending it to others when they think the series is great and worth reading AS IS. I've read other books before that I didn't agree with the way they end, but you dont go to their happy place (SKMB) and tell them they're wrong. The storie's done when its done. Leave it at that. I personally thought that the ending was perfect and keeps the characters alive in my mind so I know where they're going to be in their world.

Also, about your statement above about the Bible....


This story is no more his, then the story the men wrote in the bible

I'd love to see the reaction to that if you tried to re-write the ending to THAT or to change the story that those men had wrote....

[SHEEMIEE]

Hi,

Ya think?

Well, maybe so or maybe so.

I think he already wrote a brilliant ending, and I suggest you read it again.

Long days and pleasant nights

well said john,
i have to say -the read for me was the ride, and i could have put the book down when i was prompted but i was just cackin myself too much hoping, nay praying that their wouldnt be interfering aliens at the end of his journey- all in all a wonderful adventure that ended,then began again. beautiful. HOORAH!

hat tip to the big man and much applause.
so say us all

[fushingfeef]

Originally when I was reading the Dark Tower series, by about book 3 or 4 I had guessed that the series would end with Roland going into the Dark Tower and finding Stephen King sitting at a typewriter/computer working on the last Dark Tower book, and Stephen would look up and would lock eyes with Roland, and each would realize that they were looking at themselves as if in a mirror. Imagine my surprise/excitement when Stephen King wrote himself into the series in book 6!

Anyway, I thought the real Stephen King ended the series perfectly.

As for his initial inspiration for the Dark Tower, I believe he was drinking heavily in college at the time...just sayin'...
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[Cowboy]

You must have read a different ending than I did because I don't see that at all in either the Coda or the Author's notes which I just reread before answering in case I was misremembering. I will say again, you have apparently come up with the ending that suits you but it is not the one Steve intended.

If Sai King is going to need help rewriting his works of art, have him give me a call, I'm sure I can help straighten him out on HIS stories. (Hey!!! what is that tongue doing in my cheek?)

[~Ally~]

Hmm, I adore "Black Tower" wines, they do a gorgeous rose. Sweet. :cool2:

[Cowboy]

Does anyone know how I could get a hold of Mr. King?

Call me and I will give you his cell phone number.

[Moderator]

Does anyone know how I could get a hold of Mr. King?

I spoke with Steve about this this morning and here is his response:


"My ending is my ending. Roland will have his redemption but he did not deserve it then. During his lifetime, Roland made too many wrong choices. You cannot do things as serious as sacrifice a child and not have to pay karma regardless of other good deeds done in your lifetime."

[Cowboy]

I spoke with Steve about this this morning and here is his response:


"My ending is my ending. Roland will have his redemption but he did not deserve it then. During his lifetime, Roland made too many wrong choices. You cannot do things as serious as sacrifice a child and not have to pay karma regardless of other good deeds done in your lifetime."


The Master has spoken....woo hoo!

[JohnDalglish]

I spoke with Steve about this this morning and here is his response:


"My ending is my ending. Roland will have his redemption but he did not deserve it then. During his lifetime, Roland made too many wrong choices. You cannot do things as serious as sacrifice a child and not have to pay karma regardless of other good deeds done in your lifetime."


Hi,

And so I think the discussion should end.

At least until the man in black flees again.

Long days and pleasant nights

[GNTLGNT]

I absolutely LOVED that wine...had a whole collection of the bottles too...(The Beam made me do it!)(NO, not JIM Beam)...

[GNTLGNT]

I spoke with Steve about this this morning and here is his response:


"My ending is my ending. Roland will have his redemption but he did not deserve it then. During his lifetime, Roland made too many wrong choices. You cannot do things as serious as sacrifice a child and not have to pay karma regardless of other good deeds done in your lifetime."


Hear! Hear!

[Spideyman]

Sai King has spoken. Thank you MsMod, Thank you Stephen. Let the world move on.

[Moderator]

Let's hope so but I'm not counting on it yet. :smile2:

[JohnDalglish]

Let's hope so but I'm not counting on it yet. :smile2:

Hi,

Ah, the patience of Job, I tell thee LOL.

Long days and pleasant nights

[~Ally~]

Let's hope so but I'm not counting on it yet. :smile2:

Hmm, me neither. I mean...how do we know you really spoke to Steve and aren't just putting words in his mouth? Huh, huh? I demand he sends me a PM, personally, addressed to only me confirming you speak true. Actually no, he needs to call me on my cell phone, or even better my home phone so I can put him on loud speaker and my whole family can listen, then I want an explanation as to why he is such a damned amazing writer! Keep up the good work Steve, and Marsha. :love:

[Moderator]

Hmm, me neither. I mean...how do we know you really spoke to Steve and aren't just putting words in his mouth? Huh, huh?

Yup, that's exactly what I'm expecting to hear. :biggrin2: At least I have a few of you who can vouch that I am who I say I am and do have direct access as part of my job. :smile2:

[boogerb53]

This is a joke.....C'mon.....Really??

[RandomMan]

I believe I speak for everyone....HELL NO!!!

Ms Mod...please tell me this is a Joke...maybe Jordan is involved???

[Moderator]

Wish I could but I'm pretty sure it's not a joke and Jordan definitely isn't involved.

[wisemo]

Sweet you talk to Steve and told him the idea that is awesome. Thank you so much, maybe they could do the redemption loop for the movie, that would be an awesome surprise, are a comic arc called Rolands Redemption, are perhaps a whole new book about Rolands Redemption loop, I thought someone had a great idea about 19 being the number of time he had quested to the tower so that would be a good tie in.
With that said it would be awesome for the movie if they had one last epic battle at the end of the movie for the tower instead of Patrick Danville erasing the Crimson King daffy duck style, when Roland gets to the field of roses suddenly the beam calls everyone back good and evil for one last savagely spectacular battle. It would not change the outcome of the story any just have everyone come back one last time fight it out and die but it would look great on the big screen with hoards of slow mutants being cut down by gunslingers, Mir the crazy bear just smashing through people punishing the Can-toi, the Tick tock man and his great grand pappi smashing through people, the house from the wastleland eating people up hungry hungry hippo style. ( well maybe not that) but hoards of vampires being slayed by Ted Brautigan, and Sheemie Ruiz and the breakers punishing them with the physic powers with Father Callahan using the power of the white and steaking them down. Cuthbert and Alain gunning down John Farson, all culminating in the Crimson King blowing everyone up with his sneetches accept Patrick and Roland then going back into the book plot, no harm no foul just good fun. Plus think how much more raw emotion Roland would be running on if all of this just went down.
Maybe I could get a producer credit for this, are hell just let me direct the whole think i'm obliviously the most qualified for the job I'm a man of vision and I think if you give me a week are two I could come up with the 19 bucks to buy the film rights, I promise I will not let you down and every person will be 100 percent satisfied with the outcome. Plus maybe Oy should have a battle mode like battle cat in Heman, The power of the dark Tower commands you HOOO.

[wisemo]

Is what a joke?

[JohnDalglish]

Is what a joke?

Hi,

Aye.

Long days and pleasant nights

[Moderator]

Ron Howard's production company has already spent significantly more than $19 for the film rights so I'm doubtful they'd be willing to hand over the reins to you. They've also had their team working for several months working out the plan for how the 3 movies and TV show will be scripted. What they've come up with is subject to Steve's final approval but we'll find out soon enough what the plans are.

[cat in a bag]

I was trying hard not to comment, but I accidentally hit the thank you button on wisemo's last comment. So now I have to. I think you're pretty far out there, and rather disrespectful to boot.

Sorry, Ms. Mod, just had to clarify my thank you! I need to be more careful!

[boogerb53]

:rofl::rofl::rofl: Ok...Whoever is behind this PLEASE come forward so we can thank you properly for the laugh. "The power of the dark Tower commands you. HOOO. OMG....Yer KEELING me!!! :rofl::rofl:

[JohnDalglish]

I'm doubtful they'd be willing to hand over the reins to you.

Hi,

Ya think, Ms Mod? LOL

Long days and pleasant nights

[Moderator]

Hi,

Ya think, Ms Mod? LOL

Long days and pleasant nights

Call it an informed guess. :smile2:

[JohnDalglish]

:rofl::rofl::rofl: Ok...Whoever is behind this PLEASE come forward so we can thank you properly for the laugh. "The power of the dark Tower commands you. HOOO. OMG....Yer KEELING me!!! :rofl::rofl:

Hi,

It couldn't possibly be Le Grand Fromage playing a trick on us hopeless sinners, could it?

Or mayhap a minion of Ron Howard's?

Long days and pleasant nights

[wisemo]

But for real thanks to the Mod, for putting this to bed, I lost fair and square, but I still think I would have presented my argument to Mr. King better, maybe I could have made a power point presentation are something oh well. Maybe you could ask Stephen if I could get a role in the movie, I'm leaning on Sheemie, I would love a chance to go full retard.

[Charms7]

@ wisemo, Is that you, John Shooter?

[Moderator]

Trust me, a PowerPoint presentation wouldn't have made a difference. Steve feels very strongly about the way it ended and that it was the right way to do so. Sorry, I don't know what company they've chosen to do the casting.

[wisemo]

No this is just Wisemo, I'm just a normal guy who has been unemployed for the past 4 months and finally landed a job starting on Monday, but decided to have one last horrah on the forums before it's back to the grind. I'm 29 and my gf is 23 I help take care of her since both her parents already passed we moved to Las Vegas to find jobs and make a new start, showing just how smart I am I figured the place with the highest unemployment must have the most jobs.
I was worried about my drug test for work and could not sleep a couple days ago, and that's when I weaved the new ending to the book, that I thought was so great and then no one liked it, and then I thought surely one person just one would like the idea, but nope, then I held out all hope that maybe just maybe Stephen himself would see it, and it would have been his original idea from all those years ago and I would find redemption and get a red rider bee bee gun with the compass in the stock, but alas it's not a perfect world and there is no redemption for me are Roland at least on this go around, but maybe just maybe on one of the floors of the tower, in a different world then this Roland and me are questing for the tower together and getting things right for a change.

[Moderator]

I wish you the best and good luck with the new job! Hope things turn around for you. :smile2:

Just a word of advice--it's not that your idea was horrible. It's that you were pushing it as the only possible ending and that Steve was wrong that I think people found most objectionable. Maybe next time, toss it out as an idea without the need to be right and you might have more back and forth discussion.

[JohnDalglish]

alas it's not a perfect world

Hi,

Sad but true.

But wouldn't it be boring if it were?

Goiod luck with the new job, and stick around, you might enjoy yourself.

Long days and pleasant nights

[RandomMan]

But for real thanks to the Mod, for putting this to bed, I lost fair and square, but I still think I would have presented my argument to Mr. King better, maybe I could have made a power point presentation are something oh well. Maybe you could ask Stephen if I could get a role in the movie, I'm leaning on Sheemie, I would love a chance to go full retard.

You got the part...you played it most brilliantly...I applaud you!!!! :y: :y: (that's two thumbs up)

[other]

fix it, or I will Misery your ass.

hah

[JellybeanJay]

It occurs to me that none of you love Roland at all, your not gunslingers, your all minions of the Crimson King, a bunch of yes men for Sai King himself. Only heartless people would damn a man to Rolands fate, shame on all of you I give you a chance to stand up and save Roland to bring him peace, to let him accomplish what he truly set out to do, and you all are just satisfied leaving him in hell, well I did not quest all those years to leave him hanging I found a way to save his soul and by god I did it, I saved Roland, the tower and Gilied, I saved Susan, and Cort, and everyone just like Roland wanted, but I can save none of you for your all damned now to Rolands original curse, forever stuck in a loop never figuring out a way to save your soul. Maybe one day you'll be able to accept the white but for now you dwell in darkness good luck with that, but my Roland got his redemption and I suggest you all seek the same.

Now I am not the best writer but even I know the difference between your and you're.

[JellybeanJay]

No this is just Wisemo, I'm just a normal guy who has been unemployed for the past 4 months and finally landed a job starting on Monday, but decided to have one last horrah on the forums before it's back to the grind. I'm 29 and my gf is 23 I help take care of her since both her parents already passed we moved to Las Vegas to find jobs and make a new start, showing just how smart I am I figured the place with the highest unemployment must have the most jobs.
I was worried about my drug test for work and could not sleep a couple days ago, and that's when I weaved the new ending to the book, that I thought was so great and then no one liked it, and then I thought surely one person just one would like the idea, but nope, then I held out all hope that maybe just maybe Stephen himself would see it, and it would have been his original idea from all those years ago and I would find redemption and get a red rider bee bee gun with the compass in the stock, but alas it's not a perfect world and there is no redemption for me are Roland at least on this go around, but maybe just maybe on one of the floors of the tower, in a different world then this Roland and me are questing for the tower together and getting things right for a change.

Good luck with the new job. I agree stick around the board and have some fun. There are some really interesting threads out there.

I joined the party kind of late today and I will apologize for my post that will come up in the AM that pokes fun at some grammatical errors in previous posts. Having fun is all it was. I am looking forward to seeing if you create more threads, this one was quite entertaining.

[SHEEMIEE]

BIG BIG THE INTERNET TROLL!
good luck in the new venture wisemo.
enjoyed watching the palaver unfold.:laugh:

[CCAL]

I think SK ended the journey the only way he could end it. There couldnt BE any other way.We only go through life once and if we go again via redemption through another 'world', its through that world once as well. it is KA whatever way you look through the glass.No second chances like the movie Destination.(or was it Butterfly Effect??) o well-its classic SK ending. SK has not forgotten the face of his father!He carries that photo close to his heart,I believe.

[hipmamajen]

(((((Ms. Mod)))))

After your work here is done, can you go straighten out the folks at the UN? I really think that will be a snap after everything you've managed at the SKMB.

[boogerb53]

Ok Dude...You are starting to scare me.:eek2:

[91rewoT]

Ms Mod, you have the patience of a saint and the diplomacy of, a, ah, um, well, of a darn good diplomat!

[SarasWhimsy]

It was such a perfect ending! He made so many of the mistakes he criticized his ka-tet for making, he needed another go to make it right.

[RDSouth]

I expected Roland to be sent back in time, but not as it was done.
He should have gone back and been Arthur Eld (technically, his own ancestor).
That whole story should be written. How he emerges in a primordial world of total
chaos and establishes order in Inworld.

[darthchicken]

As creative as your alternate ending may be...simply put...what better ending could there have been for Roland? The Dark Tower is his own personal Hell for the bad choices he made during the ride.

[SharkGunslinger1999]

If you think the Beam chose you to end the story, you need to stop spitting out your pills.
:rofl:Crimson King eaten by Maturin?:rofl:

I will Misery your ass.
I'm pretty sure people like you are the reason SK wrote Misery in the first place.

[Chris1974100]

no matter what they say DT had one of the most beautiful ending.