View Full Version : Who is Desperation's True Hero
michal
September 15th, 2009, 07:26 AM
Now I know you're tempted to go with David Carver, but is that bot really is the moving power in the story? Personally I think the hero of Desperation can just as easily be John Marinville, or, of course -Tak itself.
What do you think?
wally wonder
September 15th, 2009, 07:19 PM
i think the hero is hope and friendship, or faith hope and love, best expressed by the characters who defeat the evil they opposed. great story.
jackson992
August 11th, 2010, 07:17 PM
I have to go with David on this one. If it hadn't been for David Johnny could not have done what he did
JohnDalglish
August 11th, 2010, 09:21 PM
Hi,
What about God?
Long days and pleasant nights
nate_watkins
August 12th, 2010, 12:19 AM
Hi,
What about God?
Long days and pleasant nights
I'd say David, Marinville, and what JD said. I'm not the most religious guy, but I'm just going with the story the way it was written.
blunthead
August 12th, 2010, 12:56 AM
Marinville. Is Desperation's hero, in my humble opinion, IMHO. He prevented David from unnecessary self-sacrifice by doing it himself.
Good question.
Jack Roman
August 12th, 2010, 02:19 AM
Johnny Marinville gave his life! Enough said.
ItFan
August 12th, 2010, 05:40 AM
I think for me it's a choice between God or David Carver - but then you could say that David Carver only acted the way he did because of his connection with God...
bugaboosy
August 12th, 2010, 06:22 AM
i think i agree with bluey on this one ...classic good vs evil and the way ppl rise to the occassion and fight the good fight :) lol
prakash acharya
December 3rd, 2010, 08:26 AM
Interesting point raised. I re-read Desperation just to figure out that one. It's Johnny Marinville - he's the hero. He's a cynic who ultimately rises above his world-weary self to sacrifice his life. He's also the most nuanced character in the entire novel : the one with shades of grey and not black (Tak) or white (David Carver).
Silhouette86
December 7th, 2010, 04:25 PM
Johnny Marinville. David played his part but in the end Johnny did the dirty deed to get the job done. IMO.
Lilix
April 28th, 2011, 07:48 AM
(Sorry, I'm french :blush:.)
All you've said is very interesting and I had never imagine that Johnny Marinville could have been the hero. After reading that, I think you're right, even if I also think that David Carver is a central character ! I think there are two heroes : one for the first part of the book, who is D. Carver, and another one for the last part, who is J. Marinville.
What do you think about the two parts theory ? :blush:
Jojo87
April 28th, 2011, 12:02 PM
Johnny Marinville was the biggest hero. But I guess David Carver was also a hero when he did what he did.
Alexandrian
August 11th, 2011, 09:31 AM
The characters all end up at one point or another rising up above the challenges they face so they are all heroic in some way. I noticed a theme in Desperation that is similar to the one in The Stand however, that the story unfolds because of a chain of events set off by an imbalance of good and evil in this case, the release of Tak vs. Flagg releasing the super flu in the case of The Stand. The chain of events are all different steps in the characters destinies/fates/Kas that lead to the story's climax, I point out Johnny's "god bomb" as an example. So in the end there really is no real single hero archetype.
Alexandra19
August 11th, 2011, 10:04 AM
I asked my litterature teacher to read Desperation when i was in college (it was a revenge for all the classic novels I had to read back then). When he gave it back to me, he told me he tought the story was very similar to the Book of Job in the Bible, Johnny Marinville playing the Job part. I also had pictured Johnny as the hero but hadn't digged that deep. I couldn't have, anyway, never read the Bible !
blunthead
August 11th, 2011, 10:25 AM
Well, I've already posted to this thread but I'm changing my answer. In Desperation all of the good guys are heroes, as in The Stand, The Regulators, Cell, Duma Key, so on. Marinville gave his life but David wanted to.
Alexandra19
August 11th, 2011, 10:29 AM
The thing is David is good right from the beginning, Marinville is def the one that evolves the most in the story.
bobledrew
August 11th, 2011, 10:50 AM
If you take the traditional definition of a hero in literature, I think you have to say it's Marinville. If you were to buy this definition, Marinville would be an ANTI-hero: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-an-anti-hero.htm
To me, what makes Marinville the hero is that he changes and develops as a consequence of his trials and tribulations. If he ended the novel the same self-absorbed waste that he began it as, he would not be a hero in the literary sense.
Andy M
October 21st, 2011, 12:05 PM
For me it was David and Johnny Marinville. David because he was good at the start. Johnny make sure David get killed.
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