lucid dreaming

[thymeoperator]

just wondered what people thought of the people who dreamed lucidly being the only survivors of the flu. i dream very lucidly and i thought great, if this ever happens i'm okay! but seriously, i wondered what the significance was to that.

[aptpupil]

I reckon that it's just old SK trying to almost subliminally lecture us on the potential benefits of a good night's sleep.

It certainly helped in The Langoliers, too, didn't it? :wink2:

[Cynkris]

I just re-read the stand a couple of weeks ago....and freaked myself out pretty good because I had ALL of the "symptoms" of those who survived the Super Flu! LOL

This will always be my favorite book...SK or otherwise...one of the reasons is because it never fails to make me more aware of MYSELF and my choices in life...oh yeah and my dreams. Really doesn't answer your question at all but your question started me thinking again!

[jenboxer77]

Maybe lucid dreamers are more evolved than the average human, which makes them stronger. Survival of the fittest? I am a lucid dreamer also and have very vivid dreams! :D

[Nutty Bavarian]

I've had some very weird and lucid dreams before. I hate those dejavu moments where I know I dreamed what's happening. Freaky

[Bryan James]

Some of you may be surprised that I have strange dreams. They're strange to me, too, but they'd be cataclysmically apoplectic to The Normals.

I do the old "pen and pad" on the bedside table trick.

I also have a quart of water there, and my dog peed on the rug so I had a big jug of Febreeze. I managed to wake up enough before I pulled the trigger, but I had the nozzle quite ingested. I now keep the Febreeze in the pantry.

I think I sleep pretty well, despite back issues. The only dreams I remember are those that come after First Light, say 6:00 amish here. That was a joke. Not very funny, but witty, yes. (I have funky dreams at sunup).

If the Amish are upset with me, then I apologize. If not, they can attack me forthwith on the Interwebs!

[Nutty Bavarian]

If not, they can attack me forthwith on the Interwebs!

"SALLY FORTH INTO THAT CASTLE!"
Army OF Darkness quote

Not funny, but witty if I say so myself. :laugh:

[The Outsider]

Yeah I dream pretty vividly, although lately I haven't been dreamin as much.

I haven't been sleepin much either (connection?)

But yeah I did wonder why the flu survivors dreamed lucidly, so I think this is why: SO, people who dreamed alot/vividly/lucidly seemed to be those who survived the flu. Then, coincidentally, everyone starts having dreams about Mother Abigail/Flagg. Maybe, seeing as this is sort of a God story, this was all a plan, and those who dreamed were "selected" if you will, to play a part in a world after the flu by the big guy himself.

Basically, I'm saying that God picked the big dreamers for survival because they would be good receivers to Abigail and Flagg's dream "broadcasts".

[BlackThorn]

I had a slightly lucid dream last night. In some dreams, I remember that I can fly in dreams. It's like a gargoyles flight, other than the fact that I can take off and climb to the height of a building if I try really hard, and gargoyles can really only glide or hover, they can't go straight up.

Sometimes in a dream, when it's too complicated to be lucid, like in the dream I had last night where I had to kill a bunch of people who were invading my safe zone, and trying to kill me... I just remember like second nature that I can fly.

I doubt it was 'only the people who dreamed lucidly' who survived the flu. It was only that the dreams came, after everyone had died. It was a sign of the coming war, and an influence on your psyche, to help you decide which side you should be on. If you loved dreaming of The Dark Man, then you drift towards him. If you enjoyed the dream of the old black woman and were scared of The Dark Man, there was no way you were going to Vegas.

I'm a professional dreamer though. I remember I slept in one summer, when I was maybe 10, and I had amazing lucid dreams. Dreams where I spoke in rhymes, and dreams where I was in worlds Jim Henson wishes he created for us while he was here. For the rest of that summer, I slept in every day till noon. I wasn't being lazy, the dreams were just so much better than the waking world. And don't get me wrong, I'm a morning person for a reason. I love the new day, I always get very charged from resting, and I dive back into all the things I love, moving in new amazing directions, every day. So I wake up each day with a smile in my eye and a dance in my step.

Dreams are my gravy, and if I could dream when I was awake, you'd all have to deal with a real gargoyle. Just cause some people can't dream when they're awake, doesn't mean it'll ever stop me from projecting mine. =oD

[thymeoperator]

ahhh i think you're onto something with that, yeah. thanks for that!

[thymeoperator]

i should have used the quote feature on that last post of mine, it got out of order when they all got posted in the end.


I doubt it was 'only the people who dreamed lucidly' who survived the flu. It was only that the dreams came, after everyone had died. It was a sign of the coming war, and an influence on your psyche, to help you decide which side you should be on. =oD

actually it said in the book numerous times when introducing each character that they'd had ultra vivid dreams all their lives, so it was definitely the ones who dreamt lucidly long before the flu outbreak who managed to survive. i like The Outsider's suggestion for what that could mean, it makes sense.

my whole life i've had lucid dreams. before i had a job and had to wake up so early all the time and got into a natural rhythm, i used to have a minimum 4 ludicrously complicated dreams every night for years upon years. they were always nightmares, and after a while i started being able to stop them just before the bad thing would happen, then rewind them like movies and replay them over and over, changing them, trying to prevent the inevitible from happening. then i'd realise i was thinking about it, planning it, and realise i was conscious, and then just wake myself up. they were recurring dreams too, for years.

one day i talked about them with someone who suggested what they could metaphorically mean...and what do you know, i stopped having those dreams. when they came back several months later, they progressed. it was cool because they no longer scared me once i understood them, and they always involved this strange house, and the more time went by the more i'd explore it and get to different levels - always thought i must have been exploring myself.

haven't had anything that interesting in a long time, apart from during holidays, like at christmas when i get 2 weeks off from work and have time to sleep more relaxedly, then i'll have those kinds of dreams again. i like them these days, though, feel quite powerful in them. although i must say i always wake up feeling like i've been up all night thinking, rather than rested, which isn't much fun.

[K4driver]

oh no....the end is coming. I have been really dreaming lately, like one is of me playing Born To Run onstage in front of thousands of fans, saying I didn't write this, but No manson and his followers.

[The Outsider]

Thanks, thymeoperator! Just as an afterthought, and I think someone else said this, but maybe the lucid dreaming had to do with maybe a higher stage in evolution? Maybe those with the vivid dreaming had evolved a little bit mentally beyond others, and this tiny evolution made it where the flu couldn't harm them?

I don't know, just another random thought from the mind of yours truly.

[ShootDaSquirrells]

How about it is another illogical act of God which seems to occur throughout the book?

[K4driver]

I have been having those for the past week, Uhoh

[thymeoperator]

Thanks, thymeoperator! Just as an afterthought, and I think someone else said this, but maybe the lucid dreaming had to do with maybe a higher stage in evolution? Maybe those with the vivid dreaming had evolved a little bit mentally beyond others, and this tiny evolution made it where the flu couldn't harm them?

I don't know, just another random thought from the mind of yours truly.

hey i like that too! gosh, i'm turning into The Outsider Fanclub, it seems!

[tammydee5]

I had awful lucid fight or flight dreams the entire time I read The Stand...I had some dreams while reading SK's other books but unless i had a couple drinks to knock me out...I had some weird dream usually with a cameo of Flagg in them almost every night I read that book....did anyone else have dreams inspired by The Stand while reading it?

[K4driver]

I really did have one about the Lincoln Tunnel...needless to say I really did not sleep well for a couple of days