Rest In Peace

[JohnDalglish]

Hi,

I just heard that Farrah Fawcett has just lost her battle with cancer, she was an icon to my g-g-g-generation, another child of 1947.

Condolences to her family and friends - RIP Farrah!

Farrah Fawcett

Long days and pleasant nights

[staropeace]

Farrah Fawcett....dead of cancer at age 62.

[Charms7]

Yes, many prayers for her beautiful soul!

[MadamMack]

No more suffering . . .rest well baby.

http://bittenandbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/farrah-fawcett.jpg

[Dhasek]

very very sad. I am glad that her struggle is over now so she can rest in peace.

[BlackThorn]

Hey, her dude proposed three days before her death. At least he finally stopped draggin his feet. ;)

I liked Lee Majors as I was growing up. He'd go into super slow-mo for his power moves, but he was pretty cool.

Never got into Charlies Angels though.

[rjt65]

I was going to post that poster -- i had it like most of us males in the US growing up--she will be missed...

Another horrible loss to cancer... may she RIP





No more suffering . . .rest well baby.

http://bittenandbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/farrah-fawcett.jpg

[Dana Jean]

Not only was she a pretty face, she was a very talented sculptress. Her work was quite beautiful.

[arista]

She was such a beautiful woman who had struggled for a while with cancer. I remember all the boys drooling over her in grade school.

[Kim L.]

No more suffering . . .rest well baby.

http://bittenandbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/farrah-fawcett.jpg

My father loved that poster. May she be at peace.

[LOTUS]

This is so sad...I just loved her in Small Sacrifices,although she palyed "the bad person".She did an amazing job.
May her soul rest in peace.

[Perse Jr.]

Farrah was an amazing woman. Sure she had her ups and downs like we all do, but she made a huge mark in this world, and she will be missed by millions...

I have to add that I loved her in Cannonball Run. Obviously not a showcase for her great talents, but a very funny and sweet role. "You know what I like best about trees?"

[mstay]

That is sad.:down: I loved watching Charlie's Angels.
I hope she will rest in peace.

[jenboxer77]

So sad, she will be missed! Cancer be damned!

[Spideyman]

May she finally find peace. She will be missed.

[jenboxer77]

Wow. Another death. He was 50 and early reports say he had a heart attack. Another American Icon gone. :(

He had some great music, back in the day...may he rest in peace.

[Liselle]

Just heard on the news that Michael Jackson has died.

If it is true it is very sad, he had many flaws but one thing they couldn't take away was that he was a great performer.

[kisun]

Supposedly Michael Jackson died as well, from a heart attack.

Here's the link that was sent to me: http://www.tmz.com/

Two icons in one day; sad day for the entertainment industry.

[jdobbins88]

Just read a report on TMZ that Michael Jackson suffered cardiac arrest this morning and died today. http://www.tmz.com/

Haven't been able to find an actual report of "death" on any other sites, and I personally dont' have a lot of trust or respect for TMZ, so I'm unsure of the validity of this. Anyone have any valid sources citing death? Lots are saying he suffered Cardiac Arrest though, which is obviously true.

Just curious, and thought this would be an interesting topic. I have tickets to one of his shows in London for February 2010. Hopefully they find a way to refund those 50 sold out shows if they don't continue as planned.

Love him or hate him, he made some good music and had a good career.

RIP MJ

[Srbo]

And another great dies today..

Just right now, at 18.32 eastern time it has been confirmed that the King of Pop, Michael Jackson has died.

He suffered a cardiac arrest, went into a coma and died after to short hours.

Even though his music was not my favorite, I always deeply respected him as an artist.

Another legend of our time, is, sadly, gone...:sad:


R I P, MICHAEL JACKSON.

This was his fav song to me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-CcqOe9WWU&feature=fvst

[Crimson Door]

Michael Jackson was taken into hospital due to a heart attack but has died:down:

[youngfibre]

Its 23 minutes to midnight but i cant help it. CNN is doing a wake for Micheal Jackson before comfirming his death.
Ok they didnt come out and say it like that but when you get news that someone had a cardiac arrest and then you bring on people to say things like

'last time i saw Micheal he looked so frail as if the wind would take him away'

'cardiac is worse than heart attack especially for people with health issues and Micheal has a few, the chances of survival are slim'

Cardiac becomes fatal if not attended to within 16 minutes and we dont know how long it took before he got treatment'

'No matter what happens people will remember Micheal for the great musician he was even with the problems he had- accusations of child abuse etc'

And now they are playing his hits! Will anyone in CNN go home today if they dont get to gleefully be the ones to announce his demise? What kind of madness is this?
This person is human, he has family who are worried about him, will it be too much to wait for him to actually die before you roll out his HISTORY?

I love Micheal's music but never paid his person much notice but here i am crying for him not for the music but for how he must suffer in the hands of men. Worship and pain have always been the food of the gods i guess:sad:.

[Butterfly06]

Not only did we lose Farrah Fawcett but we also lost Michael Jackson as well. My heart goes out to their children, family and friends.

[Bostonbaby_21]

Micheal Jackson died as well... Why are they all going?
Sigh...
Although I didn't like his music, I still feel bad. :(

[sherryw]

what a sad day indeed. First news of farrah and then michael jackson dead of cardiac arrest. What a loss. may they both rest in peace.

[Atlana]

Oh. That is really sad. My dad told me all about it, he also told me how he has a major crush or her.
So I am very sorry to see her do. But I guess now she is not suffering.
May she rest in peace.

[Wendy Capps]

REST IN PEACE - FARRAH. I watched Charlie's Angels faithfully as a pre-teen. I and all my friends used curling irons faithfully to make our hair look like Farrah. Every boy in my school had a Farrah poster. I'm glad your pain is over Miss Farrah. You will surely be missed by all.

[tempest]

It is certainly a sad day to lose two well liked entertainment Icons and both to disease.

RIP Micheal Jackson and Farrah Fawcett.

[Spideyman]

It has been a sad two days. First Ed McMahon, and now Farra Fawcett and Michael Jackson.

Each brought something to remember- side kick to Johnny Carson/ an actress who gave so much/ and a person of music who changed the music industry and the way music videos were made. May all rest in peace. Prayers for their families.

[jacobtlong]

I wasn't a fan of Michael Jackson's, but the news of his death was certainly a surprise to me. May he rest in peace.

My father used to have one of the Farrah posters making him was among the countless to have a crush on her back in the day. Her death has certainly affected this household. Rest in Peace, Farrah.

[FlakeNoir]

It has been a sad two days. First Ed McMahon, and now Farra Fawcett and Michael Jackson.

Each brought something to remember- side kick to Johnny Carson/ an actress who gave so much/ and a person of music who changed the music industry and the way music videos were made. May all rest in peace. Prayers for their families.

:down:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIVcdx5je-o&feature=related

[Ubasti]

I feel like the Earth's titled on it's axis or something. These losses are so shocking.

Peace to the families and to those who've passed. They will all be missed and have all made their lasting impact on the world.

[IfSoGirl]

It has been a sad two days. First Ed McMahon, and now Farra Fawcett and Michael Jackson.

Each brought something to remember- side kick to Johnny Carson/ an actress who gave so much/ and a person of music who changed the music industry and the way music videos were made. May all rest in peace. Prayers for their families.

thank you, glad i'm not the only one who remembers ed. let's not forget david carradine as well.

[Natjen26]

Two icons gone on the same day. My heart bleeds.
Especially for michael because I grew up listening to his music. The past years he had some setbacks, but he was an icon. I don't know how to feel, you don't think about them until you hear something like this. :sad:

We lost a great artist and performer. May he finally be at peace.

[pandora]

Go girl!!! There are other worlds than these!!!!
http://photos.thefirstpost.co.uk/assets/library/farrah-fawcett--124240307115296200.jpg
.............................................Love You!!!!!!!

[MadamMack]

Rest well Michael Jackson . . .


Darkness falls across the land
The midnite hour is close at hand
Creatures crawl in search of blood
To terrorize yawls neighbourhood
And whosoever shall be found
Without the soul for getting down
Must stand and face the hounds of hell
And rot inside a corpses shell
The foulest stench is in the air
The funk of forty thousand years
And grizzy ghouls from every tomb
Are closing in to seal your doom
And though you fight to stay alive
Your body starts to shiver
For no mere mortal can resist
The evil of the thriller

http://beattrend.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/michael_jackson.jpg

[Mr Nobody]

The news about Farrah Fawcett was sad, but not shocking (she'd been ill with cancer for a while, and it just sounded worse all the time). I'm too young to be part of the 'crush' generation that watched Charlie's Angels. I mean, I watched, but I must have been about five years old. Even so, she registered as 'nice' (in the same way that, at that age, Miss World contestants are merely 'nice').
Then I wake up this morning to find out about Michael Jackson. That was a hell of a way to start the day. I wasn't a massive fan (though I freely admit to liking an awful lot of his output), and yes, there were the controversies - though I believe he was found not guilty first time around and second time...if there really was a criminal case to answer, would he just be allowed to settle out of court? I think not.
For all his fame and wealth, his life didn't seem to be a very happy one in many ways, yet he still helped create a lot of good memories for a lot of people.
It's funny, but I can't imagine a world without MJ in it. Maybe now I know how people felt when they heard that Elvis had died.

Hopefully, if there is a God as we are taught to think of Him, Farrah will now be free from pain and Michael will find the true peace he seemed unable to find in life.
They'll both be missed.

[HELLTEXter]

R.I.P. Michael Jackson

"Right now, he's just this weird guy who came by his kooks and kinks from being raised in a gotta-sing, gotta-dance family where he was the principal breadwinner because he and Janet were, quite clearly, the only ones who really could sing and dance. When your childhood is stolen from you, it's probably not all that unusual to try to steal a little back in your early middle age."
[Stephen King, from "The Pop of King 09 - You don't know Jackson", Entertainment Weekly, February 13, 2004]

There has been a lot of talk about the King of Pop in recent years, and one thing is clear: Michael Jackson was mentally not O.K. anymore. But all I can judge him for is his music. And his music - once-in-a-lifetime songs like Beat It, Billy Jean or Bad - will never die.

Thanks, Michael.
Thank you for the music.

[aptpupil]

As most of you are doubtlessly now aware, the death has been announced of Michael Jackson, who has suffered a heart attack at home in Los Angeles while rehearsing for his comeback, which was to include an unprecedented 50 dates at London's O2 Arena.

Regardless of any question marks over Michael's private life over the decades, there is no doubt that he is one of the most innovative, talented and important music artists of the last 30-plus years. Moreover, Michael belongs to my generation, and to a degree, his music formed part of the soundtrack to my life. From his beautiful early ballads, such as Ben and One Day In Your Life, to the exhilarating later material such as Beat It, with the celebrated Eddie Van Halen guitar solo, he has always seemed one step ahead of the pack.

Michael's life should now be celebrated, and his death mourned, hopefully without any cynical comments about the less understood aspects of his existence. Doubtlessly, and regrettably, there will be plenty of that in the media in the coming days, but here, on the SKMB, we can pay tribute in the proper and dignified way.

Rest in peace, my brother.

[rose key]

I'm so sad about Michael Jackson. It was such a shock to everyone. How we made fun of him, and I myself have laughed at cruel jokes made about him, and I feel bad about that. Now, I will always remember him for his music, and his talents on stage and film. I remember being happy for him when I heard he was making a comeback into the music industry, and I hoped he would do well. I feel so sad.:down: Rest in peace, Michael.

[Perse Jr.]

"Gone Too Soon" by Michael Jackson

Like A Comet
Blazing 'Cross The Evening Sky
Gone Too Soon

Like A Rainbow
Fading In The Twinkling Of An Eye
Gone Too Soon

Shiny And Sparkly
And Splendidly Bright
Here One Day
Gone One Night

Like The Loss Of Sunlight
On A Cloudy Afternoon
Gone Too Soon

Like A Castle
Built Upon A Sandy Beach
Gone Too Soon

Like A Perfect Flower
That Is Just Beyond Your Reach
Gone Too Soon

Born To Amuse, To Inspire, To Delight
Here One Day
Gone One Night

Like A Sunset
Dying With The Rising Of The Moon
Gone Too Soon

Gone Too Soon

[poisonbat]

Not a good week to be a celebrity. The loss of THREE icons is just devastating. I will hold all of them up with special honor. Ed McMahon was a wonderful entertainer and had a voice that was unmistakable, he brought smiles to many generations. Farrah, what a talented actress. No matter what the script called for she rocked it. Everything from a hero to villain, she never left us dissatisfied. Michael, what a fantastic entertainer. That man could sing and dance like no one else can. I will always remember going and waiting in that long long line when Thriller hit the theaters. I still watch it on You Tube once or twice a month. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtyJbIOZjS8&feature=featured Over 38 million views. I can not express my grief over losing these three so darn close together. :down::bat:

[Anni M]

I saw the Victory Tour in Toronto, compliments of Jermaine Jackson's body guard--Don...when I picked up the all area access passes at the Hilton, I met Jermaine, and Mom and Pop Jackson. Mike was staying at another hotel, away from the brothers for security sake.

Wow, I still can't believe this. Ben and I watched CNN for hours last night and we've been watching vids all morning and it still has not sunk in...
RIP, Michael. :down:

[Anni M]

And Farrah? I did everything to my hair so it would look like hers.
She was a true star.
:down:

[darktowerjunkie1]

RIP Farrah :(

[LOTUS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqZvsUbQKxQ&feature=related

One of the best songs/videos ever.It always makes me cry.
RIP

[aneaglesangel]

I wouldn't be an investigator of the paranormal if I didn't believe the soul lives on forever. Wherever they are, know that they go on. I can only pray for them that their souls cross over and find the many worlds that exist out there. Beautiful, wondrous and fulfilling! The soul never dies and neither will their beauty! Rest in peace? Nope, living on? Yup, or so I believe! Don't be sad, although I know it's hard not to be when you lose people you love. Try to remember the good things, and know in your hearts that they go on. Maybe someday you'll see them again. Only we probably won't know it if we do....

[Gallina]

May she rest in peace.

[Charms7]

What is to become of Michael Jackson's children?
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/31564994/?GT1=43001

[Bad Bear]

My day has been a bit strange, and finding out that Michael Jackson had died this morning seemed to set the template. Not a fan of his music, but I have very happy memories of 1981 when he had a big hit in this country with a 1975 recording, One Day In Your Life. Beautiful song, and such a clear, pure voice. That's how I'd like to remember him - before all the Neverland weirdness etc etc.

[marew1]

May you rest in peace Farrah. You truly are an angel.

[SusanNorton]

I felt so foolish last night, but I truly felt as if I'd been kicked in the chest when I heard Michael Jackson died. :sad: "Thriller" came out in my senior year of high school, so I hear that music whenever I look back. sigh

Many years ago I learned to separate the art from the artist - didn't want those dang human beings and their scandals ruining my jams. So my heart is very heavy today. :sad:

[Jojo87]

I heard today first that Jackson has died. R.I.P Michael Jackson.

[Anni M]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqZvsUbQKxQ&feature=related

One of the best songs/videos ever.It always makes me cry.
RIP
He never made one bad video...they all included state of the art CI graphics, they were something like art thenselves...remember the morphs in Black or White? Awesome...
thanks for posting this :smile2:

sigh
:sleepy:

[Natjen26]

I allready posted here and paid my respects, but I came across this vid and thought it was a compilation who showed the michael we all want to remember..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f7cxG5FJSM&feature=related

[Miri]

May Michael finally find the peace he sought for his entire life. He will be missed.

[aliphil]

I am going to miss the king of pop, he had all his downfalls but his music was great. Being a girl growing up when his thriller and bad albums came out i fell in love strait away. I actualy think bad was my first album.
I would love you fans out there to leave your fav thing about the king of pop and what music you liked.

[poisonbat]

I don't know if ya all know Billy Mays ( sales man of Oxyclean ) He died yesterday after a plane accident. This is the article. :down:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/29/earlyshow/leisure/celebspot/main5121196.shtml

It was not a good week to be famous, may this week bring brighter news.

:bat:

[arista]

50 seems to be the magic number..So sad.

[Srbo]

I don't know if ya all know Billy Mays ( sales man of Oxyclean ) He died yesterday after a plane accident. This is the article. :down:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/29/earlyshow/leisure/celebspot/main5121196.shtml

It was not a good week to be famous, may this week bring brighter news.

:bat:

Yeah, I was just about to mention him.

Indeed a strange week.

RIP Billy.

[Terry B]

I don't know if ya all know Billy Mays ( sales man of Oxyclean ) He died yesterday after a plane accident. This is the article. :down:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/29/earlyshow/leisure/celebspot/main5121196.shtml

It was not a good week to be famous, may this week bring brighter news.

:bat:

As you probably now by now, the plane incident did not have anything to do with Mays' death. It was heart disease.

[kisun]

RIP Billy Mays, I'll miss your energy and your show, Pitchmen.

[poisonbat]

Such great losses. Each and every one of them will be missed. I hope that we don't lose any more. :down::bat:

[danie]

I felt so foolish last night, but I truly felt as if I'd been kicked in the chest when I heard Michael Jackson died. :sad: "Thriller" came out in my senior year of high school, so I hear that music whenever I look back. sigh

Many years ago I learned to separate the art from the artist - didn't want those dang human beings and their scandals ruining my jams. So my heart is very heavy today. :sad:

Susan,
You and I must be the same age because I graduated in '82 also. I never dreamed I'd be so affected by his death. I'm in a funk about it that I just can't seem to break. All I do is listen to his music and tear up. :sad:

[Srbo]

RIP another great - Karl Malden.:sad:





Mini Biography
Born to a Czech mother and a Serbian father in Chicago as Mladen Sekulovich, on March 22, 1912, Karl Malden did not speak English until he was in kindergarten. After graduating from high school in the nearby steel town of Gary, Indiana, Malden worked in the industry for three years until 1934, when he left to attend the Arkansas State Teacher's College, then the Goodman Theater Dramatic School. Three years later, he went to New York City.

Karl rapidly became involved with the Group Theater, an organization of actors and directors who were changing the face of theater, where he attracted the attention of director Elia Kazan. With Kazan directing, Karl starred in plays such as "All My Sons" by Arthur Miller and 'A Streetcar Named Desire' by Tennessee Williams.

While Malden had one screen appearance before his military service in World War II, in They Knew What They Wanted (1940), he did not establish his film career until after the War. Malden won the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor as "Mitch" in A Streetcar Named Desire (1951) and showed his range as an actor in roles such as that of "Father Corrigan" in On the Waterfront (1954) and the lecherous "Archie Lee" in Baby Doll (1956).

In the early 1970s, he built a television career on the tough but honest screen persona he had created when he starred as "Detective Lieutenant Mike Stone" in "The Streets of San Francisco" (1972), co-starring with Michael Douglas. He also became the pitchman for American Express, a position he held for 21 years.

In 1988 he was elected President of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, a position he held for five years. Following that he published his memoir entitled, "When Do I Start?: A Memoir."

Malden also courted controversy by pushing for a special salute to 'Elia Kazan' at the 1999 Oscars. Malden defended both Kazan and the award, arguing that Kazan's artistic achievements outshone any shame attached to Kazan's naming names before the Congressional committee investigating Communists in Hollywood. Marlon Brando refused to give Kazan the statuette; Robert De Niro ultimately did.

[JackTheRipper]

RIP another great - Karl Malden.:sad:

And on that same day, Mollie Sudgen, an actress from one of my most favorite British comedies, Are You Being Served? Mrs Slocombe will forever be free

[KeyboardSamurai]

I kind of want to hurt the guy who made up the rumor about Rick Astley dying. I'm sure he did it to make fun of the recent celebrity deaths.
(My brother says Dr. Phil is next, in the tradition of slightly annoying dudes in their 50s)

[Moderator]

EW has a Michael Jackson tribute issue which came out on newsstands Friday in which Stephen has written a piece. I don't think it is on their website yet.

[KeyboardSamurai]

EW has a Michael Jackson tribute issue which came out on newsstands Friday in which Stephen has written a piece. I don't think it is on their website yet.

Sweet! I'll make sure to get it.

[sam peebles]

Former US Secretary of Defense under Kennedy and Johnson, Robert Strange McNamara (architect of the Vietnam War) died today at the age of 93.

There's an excellent 2003 documentary about him (and the war) The Fog of War: Eleven Lessons from the Life of Robert S. McNamara.

[Roseasharn]

RIP another great - Karl Malden.:sad:

Ah sweet Karl. That's terrible. He was one of my favorites. I especially loved him in On The Waterfront, that's likely my favorite movie of all time.
RIP Karl, you were truly a class act.

[Charms7]

Here's something interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Am67-Sew7k&feature=related

Is that a ghost? What is that?

[opeth]

MICHAEL JACKSON'S REAL LEGACY

Whether he was guilty of child molestation or not, Michael Jackson has left a lasting impression on the world. His music will live on forever. But what of his personal life? His "children" were not actually his biological children. When Jackson died, he was financially bankrupt. His now-cancelled London tour was supposed to reverse his difficult financial situation. What remains of his estate after his creditors are paid off will go to Prince Michael I, Paris and Prince Michael II. His ex-wife Debbie Rowe was intentionally omitted from the will.

The controversy surrounding Jackson's personal life will never go away. And fewer men will eventually volunteer to work with young children, especially wealthy men. They have the most to lose in the event of allegations of misconduct, real or false. Organizations like Uncles at Large and Big Brothers and Sisters are hurt by this scandal in the long run. Several years ago, a white male friend of mine left the early childhood education profession as a result of pressures from parents and his own colleagues. Why do men who work with or who volunteer with children have to be constant targets of suspicion? Whatever happened to trust and innocent before proven guilty?

The world is a very different place today than it was when Thriller came out. In the end, it is our children who stand to lose the most in all this.

[Srbo]

Well, right now I am watching live on TV the memorial service in Michael Jacksons honor.

I am not ashamed to say that it is really hard to keep back the tears.


Good bye, Michael, good bye brother, may you do your Moonwalk in a better World than this one is...

Somwhere between nowhere and good bye...

[demorgan]

Im not going to celebrate a person who has a "tainted" background. There is 2 much smoke coming from that.

[boogerb53]

Michael was ACQUITTED of child molestation. As far as settling out of court on the other case, that happens all the time. It's not an admission of guilt, it just makes people who are mainly after money go away. Think-if your child was molested, how much money would it take to shut you up? I don't think anyone has that much money as far as I'm concerned.

[boogerb53]

EW has a Michael Jackson tribute issue which came out on newsstands Friday in which Stephen has written a piece. I don't think it is on their website yet.

I got my issue the other day, and as usual, the first thing I do is flip thru to find if Uncle Stevie's column is in it. I must admit, I never saw the video. Was it ever completed, Ms Mod?

[demorgan]

IT seems that everyone wants to forget about all the bad stuff that is associated with MJ. The truth is , if any of that had happened, then this guy deserves to rot in hell.

[Moderator]

I got my issue the other day, and as usual, the first thing I do is flip thru to find if Uncle Stevie's column is in it. I must admit, I never saw the video. Was it ever completed, Ms Mod?

Yes, it's the one called Ghost. I found this one on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWAr1FFenp0

Not a very good copy -- there may be a better one out there but this will give you the idea.

[Cerralin]

Watching MJ Memorial service too. Unlike you Srbo I can't keep back the tears.

The world has lost a great talent. Shame he couldn't have got all this support when he was alive.

R.I.P MJ x

[robdraggoo]

Watching MJ Memorial service too. Unlike you Srbo I can't keep back the tears.

The world has lost a great talent. Shame he couldn't have got all this support when he was alive.

R.I.P MJ x

Unfortunalty, Im at work while watching this on MSN. I found it very hard to hold them back, especialy when his daughter came on at the end

[Srbo]

Unfortunalty, Im at work while watching this on MSN. I found it very hard to hold them back, especialy when his daughter came on at the end


That was it...I couldn`t hole them back either.

And this is what she said:

" I just want to say that, ever since I was born, daddy was the best father you could ever imagine.I love him so much."


So, whoever keeps saying any BS about Mike not being their daddy, should stop.
Being only someones bilogical father is not enough.You need to be there for your kids.
Michael was.

[~Ally~]

Hey guys...Srbo thank you for putting into words so beautifully what I am also feeling:smile2:.

From the very beginning of the memorial service I have found it difficult to hold back the tears. I admit if I had been alone I would have let them flow, however my family were all watching also...and there is nothing quite like a 'British stiff upper lip' to prevent the tears from falling.

We all watched in silence, as Michaels music has always been a part of our lives...even my young nieces and nephews have always known who he is, and we all have great admiration for his talent.

The service was a beautiful occassion, his family and friends should be very proud as it was extremely dignified.

[demorgan]

Michael was ACQUITTED of child molestation. As far as settling out of court on the other case, that happens all the time. It's not an admission of guilt, it just makes people who are mainly after money go away. Think-if your child was molested, how much money would it take to shut you up? I don't think anyone has that much money as far as I'm concerned.
OJ was FOUND NOT GUILTY in his criminal trial as well. I stand behind the "where theres smoke" statement.

[demorgan]

That was it...I couldn`t hole them back either.

And this is what she said:

" I just want to say that, ever since I was born, daddy was the best father you could ever imagine.I love him so much."


So, whoever keeps saying any BS about Mike not being their daddy, should stop.
Being only someones bilogical father is not enough.You need to be there for your kids.
Michael was.

Its the fact that MJ was trying to say that they were his "biological" kids that I believe that make people a little weirded out.

[demorgan]

Michael was ACQUITTED of child molestation. As far as settling out of court on the other case, that happens all the time. It's not an admission of guilt, it just makes people who are mainly after money go away. Think-if your child was molested, how much money would it take to shut you up? I don't think anyone has that much money as far as I'm concerned.

Also, MJ admitted out of his own mouth things that he did that where against the law concerning children. Ex. giving kids alcohol.
Im just saying that im not going to wave a big RIP flag or mourn for a person that has admitted to sleeping in the bed with kids that are not his own, and has also given kids alcohol. Im not ok with that type of behavior and all because he is a celebrity that wrote some "catchy" songs during my earlier years doesnt mean that he gets a " pass" on his wrong doing.

[Ri The Lousy Translator]

Oh guys, I cried my eyes out. Yesterday I had a small surgery under one of them and have a couple of stitches, but I couldn't help but crying a lot during the touching ceremony. There were some moments that you just couldn't help but cry. My heart is breaking for his 3 childreen... those poor kids...

I pointed out on an older post that I have mixed feelings. I would hate to know that the allegations on child molestation were true. I definitely hate paedophilia, I can't stand the idea of that. But, for the person here expressing his/her disgust, I have a couple of questions. First, were you there when he molested a kid? How can you affirm such a thing without being present? Second: if you have a kid that was molested by him, would you have taken millions to "forget it"? I don't have a child, but nephews (real and from life), and I assure you that if I was sure that someone molested my child, damned, I won't stop until I see that person in jail, no matter if he's loaded with zillions of dollars, or if was the Holy Freakin' Pope, get it? Who are those so-called parents that settled their child's innocence for money? Come on... However, if Jackson commited that sinful act, may God has mercy on his soul. I was not there, you were not there, so we cannot affirm anything, so I won't be the first to throw a rock at his coffin.

Anyway, I won't forget his musical legacy. I guess no one will. Michael has no childhood. Michael was poor. He was abused, neglected and milked like a cow by almost everybody. The media used him as a bull's eye. He was not able to live his life. He had always someone blaming at him for being weird (well, you name a genius who wasn't a little crazy). My prayers are now with his children. I hope his family take good care of them. They have a chance now. They might have helped Michael many times, but I guess sometimes they failed at it. And may Michael rest in peace now.

I'll look forward to read what Uncle Steve wrote about MJ since they collaborated together in Ghosts, an amazing long video (choreography and visual effects were fantastic). I'm interested in reading Stephen's thoughts about him since he got the chance to meet him and take a peek at his reality.


Michael Joseph Jackson (1958-2009) R.I.P. :sad:

[Srbo]

Michael was ACQUITTED of child molestation. As far as settling out of court on the other case, that happens all the time. It's not an admission of guilt, it just makes people who are mainly after money go away. Think-if your child was molested, how much money would it take to shut you up? I don't think anyone has that much money as far as I'm concerned.

Beautifully said.

Michael was aquitted, so...like Brutus Howell in The Green Mile said:

" Leave him be. He paid his dues and is square with the house again. "

[Ri The Lousy Translator]

Demorgan, you seem VERY TOUCHED by this case. Let me ask you something (remember Uncle Steve's "what if"?): "what if" NOTHING HAPPENED? Do you willingly hate someone just because he was "weird", or not "like you"? Because I remind you that even our dear Stephen may have a "weird" side since every person who was touched with some geniality is a little crazy. Or weird. I'm not justifying certain attitudes, but if you're going to get a little scared by someone wearing a surgical mask, just gives this new flu a couple of weeks more and you'll see yourself mirrored as Michael Jackson even you hate him. :eyebrow:

Jokes apart, I think that no one should make such serious allegations unless he/she was present to see abuse happened, or there were only greedy parents abusing someone with a lot of cash and good will.

And I don't think this forum should be a place to generate that kind of discutions. If you simply find annoying that people express their feelings about someone else, just don't enter to discuss. I won't enter a forum to discuss an issue I don't like, or to attack people, especially the dead ones from whom we know sh***. Or do you rely 100% in tabloids? This is not a hate thread. If you feel like having one, start a new one because you're free to speak. But writing hate where is only love, man, you're lost. Or you have tons of free time in your hands.

Finally, God knows if Jackson is guilty or not, and I guess he'll receive what he deserves. So what's the point in blaming a dead guy who cannot defend himself? Unless you were there at Neverland at that time, seeing something so you can swear your soul about it, with due respect, I think it's useless. Peace.

[boogerb53]

IT seems that everyone wants to forget about all the bad stuff that is associated with MJ. The truth is , if any of that had happened, then this guy deserves to rot in hell.

You are entitled to your own opinions, but my bible says Judge not, lest ye be judged. And I reiterate-HE WAS AQUITTED IN A COURT OF LAW! THIS MEANS HE IS NOT GUILTY ACCORDING TO THE EYES OF THE LAW! The rest of it is up to God.

[danie]

Also, MJ admitted out of his own mouth things that he did that where against the law concerning children. Ex. giving kids alcohol.
Im just saying that im not going to wave a big RIP flag or mourn for a person that has admitted to sleeping in the bed with kids that are not his own, and has also given kids alcohol. Im not ok with that type of behavior and all because he is a celebrity that wrote some "catchy" songs during my earlier years doesnt mean that he gets a " pass" on his wrong doing.

Then I guess you probably need to start a thread titled "Do NOT Rest in Peace," and leave this thread for those of us who believe "innocent until proven guilty." There are a lot of innocent people in prison right now due to your "where there's smoke" theory. I find it very releasing to withhold judgment, enjoy his legacy and think about and pray for his children and family. Whatever you believe, a man died who was very loved and revered by the world. No one gets a "pass" for their mistakes; everyone that lives and dies makes mistakes. The accusations against him were never proven in court or out.

[demorgan]

One more thing, settling out of court doesnt mean that your innocent either, that road goes both ways.

[Srbo]

Um, ok Demorgan, of course you have the right to express your own opinion, but just to repeat this once again:

Michael was aquitted by a jury of his peers.
By simple people, who sat there during the trial, listened to all the facts and evidence and said:
"Not guilty. On all counts."

So, I just want to ask you :

You don`t trust the judicial system in your own country ?

What happened on that trial ? Mike bought those people off ?
I highly doubt that, my friend.

When Jerry Lee Lewis married his cousin, his underage cousin, mind you, I don`t recall reading about America being friendly nor forgiving to a guy who was, at the time, just about as big as Elvis, if not bigger.
After that, his carier turned to dust.

Which I didn`t see happening with MJ. He just sold 1.6 million tickets for his shows in a few hours.
You think people would go to see a pedophile ? And actually pay for that ?
Think again.


And btw :
His daughter said it all yesterday.
Her tears for a wonderful father spoke more than any words ever can. If she doesn`t know, no one does.

Cheers.

[JohnDalglish]

One more thing, settling out of court doesnt mean that your innocent either, that road goes both ways.

Hi,

While I share many of your reservations, I've stayed away from this/these threads on the basis that 'if you can't say anything good......'.

Perhaps a little circumspection and tolerance of others' viewpoints and feelings might not go amiss?

Long days and pleasant nights

[demorgan]

And Ill repeat what i said as well. OJ was found not guilty by a jury of his peers as well, the court system is not perfect. I stand behind my statement about his actions that he admitted out of his own mouth, once again let me say it. He admitted to sleeping with children not of his own and giving children alcohol, now, deny that. If you think that is normal acceptable behavior, then hey, thats you. YOu have your opinion and I have mine. There may be many people that love this guy, but there are just as many that his actions raised alot of flags.

[demorgan]

Demorgan, you seem VERY TOUCHED by this case. Let me ask you something (remember Uncle Steve's "what if"?): "what if" NOTHING HAPPENED? Do you willingly hate someone just because he was "weird", or not "like you"? Because I remind you that even our dear Stephen may have a "weird" side since every person who was touched with some geniality is a little crazy. Or weird. I'm not justifying certain attitudes, but if you're going to get a little scared by someone wearing a surgical mask, just gives this new flu a couple of weeks more and you'll see yourself mirrored as Michael Jackson even you hate him. :eyebrow:

Jokes apart, I think that no one should make such serious allegations unless he/she was present to see abuse happened, or there were only greedy parents abusing someone with a lot of cash and good will.

And I don't think this forum should be a place to generate that kind of discutions. If you simply find annoying that people express their feelings about someone else, just don't enter to discuss. I won't enter a forum to discuss an issue I don't like, or to attack people, especially the dead ones from whom we know sh***. Or do you rely 100% in tabloids? This is not a hate thread. If you feel like having one, start a new one because you're free to speak. But writing hate where is only love, man, you're lost. Or you have tons of free time in your hands.

Finally, God knows if Jackson is guilty or not, and I guess he'll receive what he deserves. So what's the point in blaming a dead guy who cannot defend himself? Unless you were there at Neverland at that time, seeing something so you can swear your soul about it, with due respect, I think it's useless. Peace.
Im not attacking anyone, I havent called out anyone BY NAME, have I. Im giving my opinion.

[demorgan]

Ill take John's advice and let this be the last post in this thread, not out of respect for MJ, but out of respect for the people in this thread.

[Srbo]

Buddy...what the heck does OJ has to do with a thread titled R I P, meaning " Rest in Peace ", not " Rot in Prison " ?

And, btw, if you think OJ was guilty for that crime and was unfairly aquitted by the jury, well, you got your justice now - he`s in jail for something else, ain`t he ?

Michael is dead, man, dead...and so are these other people in this thread.

I suggest as well that you open up another thread for discussing those matters that you have on your mind.

All the best.

[jchanic]

I'm going to miss Farrah Fawcett MUCH more than I ever will miss Michael Jackson.

John

[Mr Nobody]

My parents and grandparents gave me alcohol as a kid. It was a little tot of sherry to see the new year in with.
I've slept in the same bed as an adult that was not my parent. He was my uncle and he was staying with us while on leave from the army.
Doesn't make them 'evil' or anything else.
OJ was acquitted because there was reasonable doubt. Clever defence got him off. MJ was found not guilty one time and was acquitted by the court on another due to lack of sufficient evidence. While I take the point that that isn't a certainty in and of itself, I would argue that a DA going after someone for the second time would use every shred of proof they could find, and would be meticulous in constructing their case.
Out of court settlement...you could say there's no smoke without fire. But why put yourself through the whole hearing? It was money they were after, so you go 'Here, take $12 million and get lost. I just want to be done with it and get on with life...besides, the lawyers' bills are going to cripple me more than the settlement'.
Bottom line is, if I even thought a kid of mine had been abused, I wouldn't take any settlement because it wouldn't be about the money. I'd want a conviction and nothing less would do.
And what sort of parent allows their kid to stay over if they know/think the person might abuse them? Is the mother seriously saying she didn't know who MJ was and the allegations that had been made about him previously? Because I call BS.

I've said before I wasn't a massive fan but liked a fair chunk of his output, and that was enough. Only reason I posted again was because this 'mud sticks' stuff pees me off royally.
Just imagine it was you that was accused of something. Now imagine that the case falls apart, you're acquitted/found not guilty and you just want to get on with your life...and then imagine how it'd feel to never be believed.
Let's say I'm a DA and call you a thief, for example. I have no proof, basically because you've done nothing wrong, and my case falls apart. But then say I keep saying it and everyone believes me. Folks you're meant to have stolen from file private claims in civil court. You want it to go away, so you're advised to settle. But that's still not an end to it; you're still viewed with suspicion - even after you die.
Can't imagine much worse, tbh.

[Ri The Lousy Translator]

I respect your opinion, and while I also don't agree with some of his past choices, I try to think the best about people first. You see, there is a very poor family next door, a mother with 4 small children and expecting (yeah, well). And a lovely dog. We're not at our best economically, but we try to be as nice as we can with them. Feed the dog. Give the children small gifts, or chocolate. If they were alone, we invited them a couple of times until mom comes home from work to see TV, eat cookies, chat. They love to draw and I have their drawings on my fridge. Imagine how should I feel if that mother think we do something horrible to the kids. Why? Only because we cared? You see, I try to think well at first. If not, well, we should live all alone. Just in case, you know. I respect you opinion as I said, but I also like to have some faith in people too. And in justice. At the end, no one should throw the first rock, right? Peace. :love:

[FlakeNoir]

And Ill repeat what i said as well. OJ was found not guilty by a jury of his peers as well, the court system is not perfect. I stand behind my statement about his actions that he admitted out of his own mouth, once again let me say it. He admitted to sleeping with children not of his own and giving children alcohol, now, deny that. If you think that is normal acceptable behavior, then hey, thats you. YOu have your opinion and I have mine. There may be many people that love this guy, but there are just as many that his actions raised alot of flags.

It's true that we all have our own opinions and a right to them for that matter. I think what most people here are trying to say to you is that there is a time and a place for everything, but I think it's possible that you've chosen the wrong ones for both.

This thread has been started for people that wanted to wish Michael Jackson peace. Anything else might be best left to another thread.

[~Ally~]

Well basically I think the people who are posting in this thread with negative comments really should form their own thread where they can feel free to voice their opinions in like minded company.

I believe we are all entitled to our own thoughts and feelings on any subject, yet some respect should be paid to the fact this thread is titled 'Rest in Peace'...if people do not want to pay their respects then they really shouldn't feel the need to post here.

Sorry if that offends, but I am also offended by what appears to be a blatant attempt to antagonise members who are posting here to show their love and admiration for a man who has influenced many people for different reasons. These members have every right to feel comfortable posting these feelings in a thread titled RIP...if others don't like that then I guess all I can say is...don't read it!!

[Matticus]

I've been meaning to say something about this :)

As far as the kids go, I think that MJ grew up (even before he was famous) in a home where that kind of thing was taught as love. I seriously consider his family a total freak show and I think that poor kid got the lion's share. Not an excuse but I think he really thought his behavior was love no matter how we see it. Skewed perceptions on what love is brought on by childhood experiences is a cross we all have to bear.

So I felt sorry for him but man...the talent was amazing!

The other thing I wanted to say is that I was seriously angry at his family for putting his daughter on stage at the memorial. Did you guys see this thing? The way they crowded around her? It was scary to me.

I think if his family (and we as the public) knew one thing for sure about MJ it was that he did not want his kids to suffer the same kind of childhood that he did. He did not want them in the public eye and as their father, he had a right to that position imo.

Now here they are, his body in the room, parading them out for the cameras. Not what he would have wanted and more than a little bit disrespectful to him as far as I was concerned.

[dw1345]

holy sh*t you guys gotta see this!

during an interview Michael Jackson has some very very nice things to say about Stephen King. this is unbeliavable, I had no idea they had such a good relationship. michael was such a genuine guy and it breaks my heart to watch this interview and hear him talk about sk. michael talks about their collaboration Ghost and even signs a copy of insomnia at the end!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kgBL3UVUXU&feature=related

[aSecretAgent]

Rip mj

[Moderator]

holy sh*t you guys gotta see this!

during an interview Michael Jackson has some very very nice things to say about Stephen King. this is unbeliavable, I had no idea they had such a good relationship. michael was such a genuine guy and it breaks my heart to watch this interview and hear him talk about sk. michael talks about their collaboration Ghost and even signs a copy of insomnia at the end!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kgBL3UVUXU&feature=related


If you haven't already, you might want to read EW's tribute magazine that came out last Friday. Steve wrote a piece about his working with Michael on Ghost. What Steve didn't mention was that the reason they first got together was because he had invited MJ to do the audio recording of "Popsy" for the Nightmares & Dreamscapes audiobook. It didn't happen for a number of reasons.

[FlakeNoir]

holy sh*t you guys gotta see this!

during an interview Michael Jackson has some very very nice things to say about Stephen King. this is unbeliavable, I had no idea they had such a good relationship. michael was such a genuine guy and it breaks my heart to watch this interview and hear him talk about sk. michael talks about their collaboration Ghost and even signs a copy of insomnia at the end!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kgBL3UVUXU&feature=related

That was very sweet. Gosh, didn't he seem like such a shy wee guy? Thanks for finding this. :)

[Moderator]

I was struck by his use of the word "humble" in his description of Steve. Not that I don't know that about Steve :smile2:, but that that was my perception of MJ. I was the one coordinating the Nightmares & Dreamscapes project so got to speak with a lot of the readers, including MJ. He placed the call himself rather than through an assistant so at first I didn't realize I was talking to him. I told him I was impressed he'd placed the call himself.

[SusanNorton]

I must say this: NOBODY knows for sure what happened between Michael Jackson and the boys. People are judging him by their own standards, and he wasn't anything like other people. Also, as my grandmother used to say, "I wasn't in the room holding the candle, so I really don't know."

O.J. has been brought up, but I don't think he's a good example. I prefer the Ramsey family. How many people knew that the Ramseys had something to do with the death or cover-up of Jon Benet? I did, and I'm truly sorry I had those suspicions. :sad:

R.I.P., Michael Jackson - fame is a horrible thing.

[Drawn to Ka-tet]

RIP Michael Jackson.
You know they have a helluva band in the clearing at the end of the path!

Long days an pleasant nights.

[Srbo]

I was struck by his use of the word "humble" in his description of Steve. Not that I don't know that about Steve :smile2:, but that that was my perception of MJ. I was the one coordinating the Nightmares & Dreamscapes project so got to speak with a lot of the readers, including MJ. He placed the call himself rather than through an assistant so at first I didn't realize I was talking to him. I told him I was impressed he'd placed the call himself.

No disrespect to Uncle Steve and Michael, or anybody else for that matter, but IMO - you are the coolest and most humble person I`ve ever "met"...

[Moderator]

:blush: Thank you. Partly personality and partly upbringing not to make a big deal of yourself.

[MadamMack]

:blush: Thank you. Partly personality and partly upbringing not to make a big deal of yourself.

You were raised right Ms. Mod. :cool2: :love:

[Srbo]

Rest in peace, the great Walter Cronkite.

The most trusted man in America.

" And that`s the way it is...", as he would say...

[Srbo]

Coroner rules Jackson's death a homicide; tests reveal propofol, other drugs Module body



Mon Aug 24, 5:30 PM


By Thomas Watkins, The Associated Press

LOS ANGELES - The Los Angeles County coroner has ruled Michael Jackson's death a homicide, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press, a finding that makes it more likely criminal charges will be filed against the doctor who was with the pop star when he died.


The coroner determined a fatal combination of drugs was given to Jackson hours before he died June 25 in his rented Los Angeles mansion, according to the official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the findings have not been publicly released.


Forensic tests found the powerful anesthetic propofol acted together with at least two sedatives to cause Jackson's death, the official said.


Dr. Conrad Murray, a Las Vegas cardiologist who became Jackson's personal physician weeks before his death, is the target of a manslaughter investigation by the Los Angeles Police Department.


According to a search warrant affidavit unsealed Monday in Houston, Murray told investigators he administered a 25 milligram dose of propofol around 10:40 a.m., after spending the night injecting Jackson with two sedatives in an unsuccessful attempt to get him to sleep.


The warrant, dated July 23, states that lethal levels of propofol were found in Jackson's system. Besides the propofol and two sedatives, the coroner's toxicology report found other substances in Jackson's system but they were not believed to have been a factor in the singer's death, the official said.


Murray has spoken to police and last week released a video saying he "told the truth and I have faith the truth will prevail."


His attorney, Edward Chernoff, had no immediate comment but has previously said Murray never administered anything that "should have" killed Jackson.


A call to the coroner's office was not returned Monday. Murray did not say anything about the drugs he gave to Jackson.