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North Central Positronics
June 23rd, 2009, 11:30 PM
Hi everyone, I'm a n00b and this is my first thread. Something occurred to me about this character. If you haven't finished the dark tower series I don't recommend reading this thread. Anyway...

In Wolves of the Calla, Slightman is feeding information to a person named Finli O'Tego about the gunslingers and their plans to fight the wolves. He reports to him from the Dogan, and Jake overhears this happening. In the final book we learn who Finli O'Tego is. But he mentions nothing to his boss Pimli Prentiss about receiving reports on any of this. He says he thinks a virus wiped out the Wolves, and that any idea of gunslingers coming was a fairy tale. But he knew better, and this character would have no reason to lie to his boss. The gunslingers coming leads to his death...

In my opinion this is a fairly large plot hole in the story. What do you think?

JohnDalglish
June 24th, 2009, 09:01 AM
Hi,

Welcome to the MB, and keep posting!

I don't see it as a 'plot hole' personally, but I recommend both Robin Furth's indispensable Concordance and Bev Vincent's The Road to the Dark Tower for further reading.

Long days and pleasant nights

Stranger
June 24th, 2009, 12:39 PM
i for one plan on getting those two to read more....i love this series and i can't wait to read them both

North Central Positronics
June 25th, 2009, 08:41 AM
Hi,

Welcome to the MB, and keep posting!

I don't see it as a 'plot hole' personally, but I recommend both Robin Furth's indispensable Concordance and Bev Vincent's The Road to the Dark Tower for further reading.

Long days and pleasant nights

Hey, thanks... and may you have twice the number. :cool2:

I own a copy of Bev Vincent's book. I should pick up the other one too. I don't recall this issue being brought up in "the road" so I'll have to look that up. Do you have an explanation for this inconsistency? I have some of the dark tower audio books and it occurred to me this weekend while listening to the wolves of the calla at work.

All Hail The Crimson King
September 17th, 2009, 05:26 PM
Hi everyone, I'm a n00b and this is my first thread. Something occurred to me about this character. If you haven't finished the dark tower series I don't recommend reading this thread. Anyway...

In Wolves of the Calla, Slightman is feeding information to a person named Finli O'Tego about the gunslingers and their plans to fight the wolves. He reports to him from the Dogan, and Jake overhears this happening. In the final book we learn who Finli O'Tego is. But he mentions nothing to his boss Pimli Prentiss about receiving reports on any of this. He says he thinks a virus wiped out the Wolves, and that any idea of gunslingers coming was a fairy tale. But he knew better, and this character would have no reason to lie to his boss. The gunslingers coming leads to his death...

In my opinion this is a fairly large plot hole in the story. What do you think?

Yes, it is indeed. I caught that myself and it's the only thing that bugs me about my favorite book in the series, DT7. If the events that occured in the Dogan near Calla Bryn Sturgess happened then (sensibly) all the forces of Blue Heaven should have been ready and waiting for the coming gunslingers.

All Hail The Crimson King
September 22nd, 2009, 03:00 PM
Or at least have some reason why after receiving that information Finli acted like he didn't know the Gunslingers were coming, as if it was a myth.

TBlack
September 25th, 2009, 06:48 AM
Finli was a reformed 12 Step Grass Eater..his short-term was shot to hell
&
There are other wolves than these!

Kacee
October 6th, 2009, 06:01 PM
Finli was a reformed 12 Step Grass Eater..his short-term was shot to hell

Don't we wish we could all make that excuse when we forget something!:laugh:

wall of fog
November 9th, 2009, 11:40 PM
I immediately delved into Tower 7 after Tower 6 because the hanger at the end of Tower 6 made the two seem like a pair. My first impression of Finli O'Tego was that he was in the know and expected Mordred to finish them off. Down the road finishing Tower 5 I believe O'Tego actually believed there was a virus because it explained his end of the transaction from the computer in Tower 5. He may have been a shmuck that wouldn't tell his boss if it ruined his good ol' boy status.

Ranger_Strider
December 8th, 2009, 03:19 AM
Well, the thing with Finli is that he kept his (weasley, hamsterish, ratty) eyes on the screens which spewed forth the data. The room with the computers is always to be avoided. Telemetry skewed, who knows what it spewed? We deal in lead. Blat skitty boom dead rat-head in the area. I spect he didn't want his failure in the calla to be known to the boss with the ballsa=
It occurred to me that Primli Prentiss should have had lots of accounts, because he would have been the TYPE to love collecting rent from the renters.
At least Roland set THEM all to their rights.
Poor Eddie paid the price of admission.

Ranger_Strider
December 11th, 2009, 12:47 AM
The price of admission is death, in any world.

Ranger_Strider
December 11th, 2009, 12:59 AM
TYPE= Total Yuppie Puritanical Evangelist

...In case you are still reading this...

THEM= Typically Hubristic Every Man

North Central Positronics
December 30th, 2009, 02:23 PM
I listened to the audio book of WOLVES OF THE CALLA again this week, and paid attention to that scene where Ben Slightman makes his report to Finli O'Tego. His manner of speaking his different than it is in the final book. He sounds almost robotic when being broadcast in the Dogan. Andy also reports to him, but it is basically a data transfer and is never explained what was passed on. Maybe King didn't expect for Finli O'Tego to play a big part... but it seems like a serious oversight. In researching for the final book, surely King went back to the ONLY REFERENCE of Finli O'Tego in the dark tower series Prior to DT7, right?

North Central Positronics
December 30th, 2009, 02:39 PM
Perhaps the reason King is working on a new Dark Tower book is because he read this thread and wants to shore up this inconsistency? Maybe it wasn't Finli O'Tego at all, but Ted Brautigan at Algul Siento PRETENDING to be Finli to help the gunslingers? No, doesn't really work. These reports were scheduled in advance, and besides... Ted Brautigan claimed not to know what was in the pills made out of Calla children's brains. And to fake being Finli he would need to know about the wolves purpose and mission I would think. In my opinion, this is a true plot hole... and I know I'm nitpicking but that's the problem with plot holes... they create this fault line in the logic of the story, like when Rolond was being torn apart by the fact that if Jake didn't die by the car, Roland would never have met him. If Finli O Tego knew of the coming gunslingers, he WOULD have warned his boss. And when the alarm at the station went off he wouldn't have believed a robot did it and then fried on the tracks.

wall of fog
January 5th, 2010, 01:35 PM
Finli O Tego is incompetant. He is ill from living in that sick place. We are graced to be allowed to see his slick coverup.