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greenman_studio
May 20th, 2009, 12:55 AM
This may have been addressed already and if so I am sorry. This has been bothering me for a long time and I want some help with it if you don't mind. I believe there is another tower. There has to be. Think about it. There are 6 beams, right? And at the point where they intersect stands the Dark Tower. What about the point where they intersect on the other side of the world? Like the 2 poles of a globe! Is it possible that Roland entered the wrong Dark Tower? Things didn't go as Roland imagined. He entered and was pulled into the tower and he begged to not have to do it all over again. He forgot the horn of the Eld on the battlefield after Cuthberts death and so must repeat the cycle until he gets it right. He may have also went to the wrong tower. He could have been mislead and made to go the wrong way to keep him from gaining the tower. If he did go to the right one, what does stand on the other side of the world where the beams intersect? Does the tower go all the way through? Wouldn't there be 2 towers and 2 possible ways in then? I need ideas on this folks. I think there is another book left. Eddie even told Susan and Jake at the end of the last book when she went back to New York that he felt that they had a bit of work left to do. They weren't done yet.
vivazebool
May 20th, 2009, 08:34 AM
Interesting idea, but I don't think it holds water.
All I can think to say is that The Agincourt in The Talisman (King and Straub) is the Dark Tower's twinner.
Bluey Lunger
May 20th, 2009, 09:26 PM
neat idea, greenman. never thought of it, myself. sure, why not? why couldn't there be another? who's to say? 'i am waiting for a perpetual rebirth of wonder.' nice job. have any other ideas about stuff?
amcbride
May 21st, 2009, 06:14 PM
Something to this effect was actually mentioned in the Dark Tower, and it said that there were different "towers" on each level of the beams. For instance in the Keystone World it was the rose that occupied the abandoned lot, and in another world it was an animal, I believe it was a Lion (i think) or something to that effect. At least that is what I got, maybe someone else can enlighten me if I was mistaken, theres a lot to absorb in the series.
michal
June 1st, 2009, 02:17 AM
It's a mad-believe fantasy book, so I guess any fantasy goes. Imagine what you may and keep that thinking machine running.
Prince of Darkness
June 17th, 2009, 02:17 PM
Hi,
I disagree. In-World is the deep Southern Hemisphere of All-World, Mid-World on the Equator, and End-World the deep Northern Hemisphere. It would thus be impossible to have a Dark Tower so close to Gilead and Mejis, no?
As to your concern on the beams, no. You see, my impression of it was that the doors to the other worlds were at the edge of the universe, and that the beams came from there. Mind boggling, ey? Just try and remember that All-World is in flux, and everything is rather confusing.
But, concerning the possible arrangement of All-World, do you now get why The Crimson King appeared as Father Christmas? Because he was standing atop the North Pole. :glare:
Long days and pleasant nights
darktowerjunkie1
June 17th, 2009, 03:54 PM
wow, that was deep...and Prince of Darkness has this problem down!
There was ALOT of information to digest, as amcbride mentioned, and I haven't had the inclination to read them all again, I'm getting there, but not quite yet :)
Sometimes as I'm reading other books (on my umteenth time reading Insomnia) and I start trying to figure out what really is behind everything, it just boggles my mind!
jenifer
June 19th, 2009, 09:37 AM
Something to this effect was actually mentioned in the Dark Tower, and it said that there were different "towers" on each level of the beams. For instance in the Keystone World it was the rose that occupied the abandoned lot, and in another world it was an animal, I believe it was a Lion (i think) or something to that effect. At least that is what I got, maybe someone else can enlighten me if I was mistaken, theres a lot to absorb in the series.
Yes. There are two towers. The rose signifies the dark tower in the keystone world.
Ebdim9th
July 15th, 2009, 12:37 AM
Its been a long time since I read the Talisman.. but wasnt the Talisman itself an apparent version of the Rose/ the Dark Tower?
Prince of Darkness
July 16th, 2009, 01:44 PM
Hi,
Yes all, there are many versions of The Dark Tower, but there can only be one in any single world.
In Keystone Earth, The Rose is it. In others, maybe like AMCBride said, a Lion (Aslan from The Chronicles of Narnia, perhaps??) is the Dark Tower's incarnation. In all of these worlds there is an incarnation, or version, if you will.
But only two are vital to the existence of the multiverse. They are The Dark Tower itself, and The Rose.
And no two versions are in the same world, they are always in different ones. These incarnations serve as the focal point where the beams all come together and connect it to the actual Dark Tower. They are more co-ordinated faces that are always linked to The Dark Tower than versions, but I'm not sure.
As many know, I only speculate most of the time. But I assure you, it is mostly grounded speculation! :biggrin2:
Long days and pleasant nights
Neil W
July 28th, 2009, 07:33 AM
Is it just me, or do some people - a fair number, actually - think about works of fiction WAY more than I do? No reason why you shouldn't of course, and this isn't any any way a dig at anyone (it's probably more a comment on my own superficiality) but I sometimes think it's possible to get a great deal more out of a story than is actually there in the first place.
Ebdim9th
July 31st, 2009, 11:24 AM
Like the big bang theory, we strike nothing against nothing, we get something. We strike something against nothing we get a mutation. We strike a mutation against another something and we get an entirely new species of creation. Sometimes seeing more into a story then is as yet formed there is that very same process of creation that will produce invention and imagination. Further the thought process along to better ideas.
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