Josef Fritzl

[MadamMack]

This breaks my heart to pieces and I do not believe his wife didn't know what was happening all those years. If that's true she's a woman that truly walks around with her eyes wide shut.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzl_case

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_02/fritzlDM_468x558.jpg

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/04/29/fritzl470.jpg

[Speedy2]

I completely agree. That man is sick and should be hung from places that I will not mention. Needs to have a little quick surgery done. The mother needs to have her ass jacked and be charged with some of the same offenses IMHO. :mad: How many years was that little girl/now woman held as a hostage by her own father? How many kids did he father with her? Ooohhh, as you can see, this kind of thing really toasts my butt. Sorry:eek2:

[Sawney Beane]

It was on the news a few months ago.Me and my wife started snarling (literally)when that monster appeared on the telly.I can´t even talk about it without seeing red.That man should be lynched by his fellow citizens,old fashion lynch that is,with whipping and all.NO MERCY FOR PEDOPHILLES.

[hipmamajen]

I remember reading about this! Seriously, how blind was that woman? How can you have a houseful of children that you can't hear and don't know about? I call BS on that. She had to know.

[Cowboy]

I would like to show him some rope tricks I know.

[Todash]

I remember reading about this! Seriously, how blind was that woman? How can you have a houseful of children that you can't hear and don't know about? I call BS on that. She had to know.
It does seem suspicious, yet I think it is possible that she didn't know. Supposedly no one but the husband was allowed in the "dungeon." However, from reading the Wikipedia article, it seems that she probably did know about the earlier abuse (from the time the daughter was 11). Sick, all of it.

[mudpuppy]

This whole business is ghastly. I don't see how she couldn't know. At the same time, I have free reign through my whole house. If my husband told me that a certain room or door was off-limits I know that as soon as he left the house I would sneak a peek, aside from the fact that I just wouldn't accept being told that I had no admittance to an area in my own home. But I don't know, maybe she blindly obeyed him? Maybe she comes from a culture or an age where your don't question what your husband says?

Or, maybe she did know that her daughter was down there. Maybe she knew part of the story, but not all of it? Part of me wants her to be innocent so that the daughter will at least have a mother to turn to.

[Jax]

I completely agree. That man is sick and should be hung from places that I will not mention. Needs to have a little quick surgery done. The mother needs to have her ass jacked and be charged with some of the same offenses IMHO. :mad: How many years was that little girl/now woman held as a hostage by her own father? How many kids did he father with her? Ooohhh, as you can see, this kind of thing really toasts my butt. Sorry:eek2:

I am in total agreement. A few of us were just talking about this in the "Things That Go Bump In The Night" social group. My heart goes out to the daughter and those kids. I don't even know how a person would begin to start recovering after something so evil and nasty has happened to them over and over again their entire life. And those poor kids. What must they think?
They'll need years and years of therapy and counceling all because this one man was such a sicko, and his wife looked the other way. Very, very sad.

[ally88]

Yeh this is a shocking story and i also find it hard to believe the mother didn't know anything at all.
Apparently the public story regarding her disappearance centered around the girl running away with a religious cult to escape her controlling father. Yet we are expected to believe that the mother didn't question why during this 24years absence the daughter would return to leave her children on this couple's doorstep.
Surely all the building work Fritzl did to create his dungeon would have raised a few suspicions also..what kind of wife would not be tempted to even take him down a cup of coffee whilst he was building? Implausible IMHO.

What i find even more shocking is that not only is there a lawyer willing to defend him but he also claims he is a loving father as part of his defence..apparently the fact he didn't kill the children is testament to this. Unbelieveable.:sad:

[Tery]

Look, even if you don't know what's in it, doesn't the mere fact that your husband has a private freaking dungeon send up red flags??!!!??? :glare:

Punishment in this world may end up being unsatisfactory. Punishment in the next, however you envision it, is a certainty.

[AmandaRose]

this is a case that just sickens me , I mean I literally feel like throwing up, when I look at this mans horrific face imagining this suffering at his hands, words can't sum up the sorrow and compassion for this poor woman and all her children, may he rot in hell, and his wife too for letting it happen, she should be accountable for that part.

[Srbo]

Another lunatic walking the face of the Earth...:sad:

[Todash]

Look, even if you don't know what's in it, doesn't the mere fact that your husband has a private freaking dungeon send up red flags??!!!??? :glare:
It would for most people, yes. But then it's easy to fool someone who is already looking the other way.

[Lizard slushie]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29751036

He plead guilty to all charges

[Srbo]

And he looks like that Nazi from Apt Pupil too.
All that`s missing is the uniform and swastika.

[Tery]

...and Srbo wins the Godwin Award!

[Ri The Lousy Translator]

I’m with Todash, there’s no one blinder than the one who doesn’t want to see. The phrase is probably bad written, but it’s something we use to say here in my country. Most abusers' relatives know or suspect about the abuser, they just don’t want to accept it. There is hardly anyone that can’t be fooled like that, they just don’t want to deal with the fact, and therefore they seem to be "unaware". Horrible case this one… :sad: it’s heartbreaking to think about the daughter and the poor kids… they are wounded for their entire life. And this man is mentally ill, which is no excuse because he knew what he was doing. Lock him up and throw the key in the same basement (sorry, but these cases make me angry). He won't redeem, he won't "get better", there's no turning back from this kind of depravation. I even think he's not sorry for what he did. :glare:

[tillyn]

I don't imagine the woman was blind about this, she probably was being subjected to mental abuse or some kind of abuse also. At least one would hope so.( i can't believe someone "normal" would let something like this happen.) There certainly are a lot of sick sh*ts out there.

[youngfibre]

I have being keeping up with the developments on this tragedy yet everytime i see it i want to cry and scream at the same time.

That it would be your parents who would hurt you like this is just..........sad.

[Born In Sin]

"They also needed treatment to help them cope with all the extra space that they now had in which to move about.[30]" WTF????? How could someone do this to someone? Let alone YOUR DAUGHTER! I truly can not comprehend this, I read it and still can not believe it. What a sad story. I hope he gets the same attention in prison that he gave his daughter. I would not be surprised if he ends up killing himself.

[tillyn]

Well the sick sh*t was charged with rape, incest, etc., but he is going to a mental institution so really no justice is being served.

[Srbo]

...and Srbo wins the Godwin Award!



Hmmmm...

I thanked you already, but now I don`t know if winning that is a good thing at all...

Since I don`t know what that award is...:blush:

[smooth operator]

I was going to post something about the wife being a possible victim of her husband, too. But I was the victim of sexual (as well as physical and emotional) abuse as a child and I find that I am unable to be objective or even articulate anything right now.

[JayneH]

Yet another reason for capital punishment !!! although at 75 and with every inmate knowing who he is when he finally gets into a prison - his life might finally emulate that of his victim.

the sadder thing is that a few weeks ago she and the kids were put in a house in the community to start to build a new life ... and this poor girl had a bloke start stalking her... so for her safety she had to go back to the psych centre where she has been living. She cant go back until they have fitted the house with security cameras, alarm systems and security screens. Makes you wonder if she has left one prison to go to another one (although this time without the raping) The society we live in which seems to thrive off stories like this is making her chance of a normal life even harder.

[JayneH]

Just heard this morning that the prison he will be attending has the best library in Austria, a great study program, a Gym that is better than most 5 star hotels and is set at the foot of the alps in a converted nunnery !!! yet again justice lets down society !

And, he has admitted to locking his mother in the attic and boarding up the windows so she would never see sunlight again - apparently he was abused as a child and decided to get revenge - she died locked away and no one knows how long she was up there.

[Tery]

Hmmmm...

I thanked you already, but now I don`t know if winning that is a good thing at all...

Since I don`t know what that award is...:blush:

It's not a bad thing.

Godwin's Law

And I did not mean it as an insult or snark. :grinning:

[Srbo]

It's not a bad thing.

Godwin's Law

And I did not mean it as an insult or snark. :grinning:

Didn`t think you meant it as an insult at all.:smile2:

Thanks for the link.

[MadamMack]

It would for most people, yes. But then it's easy to fool someone who is already looking the other way.

Eyes wide shut! Even if the wife really didn't know it seems that one of Elizabeth's siblings would have ventured down into that basement sometime during those 24 smucking years. Somebody knew or suspected something was going on.

But, I would have gotten out. I would have beaten the sh!t out of Joself. Honestly, I would have killed him. There’s no way in hell he would have kept there for all those years. No smucking way.

[Desiree]

I believe I read that he is suicide watch. WHY?! People should be chanting, "Do it, do it, do it".