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trevchapple
March 10th, 2009, 06:32 PM
I am new here but I have been reading and listening to SK's work for a long time. I am 37, been reading SK since 16 or 17. About the Talisman... I have been confused about a couple of things. What is the point of the Earthquake that kills the construction workers - and is it related to the Jerry Bledsoe incident (six six, jackie was six) who plays those Jerry Bledsoe changes daddy? Also, what is the reason for the white bugs and the "hallucinations" at Thayer school?
These have always puzzled me so I thought I'd ask.
Thanks
Trev
JohnDalglish
March 11th, 2009, 08:48 AM
Hi Trev,
Welcome to the MB, and keep posting!
There's a Social Group devoted to The Talisman/Black House where you'll find mucho palaver about these and other matters Territorial to which you're invited to join, as soon as you have enough posts (see FAQ's).
Long days and pleasant nights
Bluey Lunger
March 11th, 2009, 05:08 PM
hi trev. good questions. dunno that i can answer them. maybe the answer lies in the attitude of jack when he flipped, compared to morgan, when he flipped. ever see that movie, the gods must be crazy?...guy drops a bottle, i think, outta an airplane, some hunter-gatherer type finds it, picks it up, takes it back to the tribe, causes no end of problems. is the quake related to what happens to jerry bledsoe? dunno. can't remember. don't think so, but maybe. what happens at thayer is related to what people do, dontcha think? seems like it, anyway. and yeah, what john said about the group, lots of info there. be sure to check it out.
Goodlovin
March 11th, 2009, 09:13 PM
I thought the Thayer school nightmare was because that was an area of the world that was just "thin" where the territories and our world were sort of coming together.
Its been some time since I read the book but the electrocution of the maintenance guy was because Morgan used his lightning rod in the territories and it had an effect here in our world.
I remember the earthquake a bit wasnt jack getting a bit paranoid at that point about things he was doing in the territories causing problems in this world?
I never really thought that was his doing.
tess4da
March 12th, 2009, 08:13 AM
In the Talisman, as in real life, people's actions have a ripple effect in the world. In Jack's case, the Territories are very intense, so the effects are stronger, and stranger.
Sweet One
March 13th, 2009, 12:28 AM
That was one of the creepiest parts of the book--when the campus fell silent right before the wierd stuff started happening. And Jack said, "Listen..the native tom-toms have stopped beating."
nathansly
April 30th, 2009, 10:36 AM
i havent read any of those books but i hope too i have only read :it,rose madder, the mist, night mares @dreamscapes, misery, pet sematary, and carry
DerekRuiz
June 18th, 2009, 10:33 PM
I thought the Thayer school nightmare was because that was an area of the world that was just "thin" where the territories and our world were sort of coming together.
Its been some time since I read the book but the electrocution of the maintenance guy was because Morgan used his lightning rod in the territories and it had an effect here in our world.
I remember the earthquake a bit wasnt jack getting a bit paranoid at that point about things he was doing in the territories causing problems in this world?
I never really thought that was his doing.
Yea that's the way I saw it too about Thayer.
dwalters
September 8th, 2009, 08:42 PM
I agree with Tess4da. The point of the earthquake was to demonstrate that events in the Territories have an effect on the "real" world. The earthquake is especially significant because it was seemingly caused by Jack doing no more than burying an apple core in the ground. So it wasn't directly related to the Jerry Bledsoe incident, but it serves as a reminder about the connection between worlds.
daniel16215
September 29th, 2009, 02:24 AM
I was thinking some toadash thrown into the deal
ScarecrowJoe
September 29th, 2009, 12:57 PM
this one is def on my must-read list.
Bluey Lunger
October 1st, 2009, 09:20 PM
the crazy thing is, all those guys killed in the earthquake are living in wisconsin...prolly something to do w/different levels and such. so...makes you wonder if you're an original article, one-of-a-kind, or if you have no twinner, triple-header, four-banger, penta-ghost...me, i'm so unremarkable that there are about five other people in the neighborhood w/the same name. go figure. :dunno:
pawnman
October 8th, 2009, 11:00 AM
I just got done rereading the Talisman last night; it's surprising just how much stayed with me from the initial reading and how much didn't--mostly things toward the end of the book was novel to me.
Since this thread is about a question about the Talisman, I didn't see any reason to create another one.
My question would be: Did anyone else notice the way that the authors created the impression that the territories were a better place to be than our own reality? I was always under the impression that even with the supernatural aspects of the territories, the American territories was the most dangerous, the most terrible place to be?
Anyways, I would appreciate any thoughts on this.
Without any further ado, onward to Jack Sawyer as a grown-up detective in Black House. :biggrin2:
JohnDalglish
October 8th, 2009, 11:30 AM
My question would be: Did anyone else notice the way that the authors created the impression that the territories were a better place to be than our own reality? I was always under the impression that even with the supernatural aspects of the territories, the American territories was the most dangerous, the most terrible place to be?
Anyways, I would appreciate any thoughts on this.
Without any further ado, onward to Jack Sawyer as a grown-up detective in Black House. :biggrin2:
Hi,
I always felt that The Territories were the world on acid (or mescaline).
Enjoy Black House.
Long days and pleasant nights
pawnman
October 8th, 2009, 12:51 PM
Hi,
I always felt that The Territories were the world on acid (or mescaline).
Enjoy Black House.
Long days and pleasant nights
I can see your point on that one. Especially when you leaped or saw someone else leap. :wink2: :laugh:
Doc Wilson
October 8th, 2009, 01:41 PM
I loved the territories. I was rather disappointed that Black House moved the story toward the DT multiverse. If I had my way, T3 would be set entirely in the territories.
dwalters
October 13th, 2009, 08:56 PM
I felt the same way too, Doc, when I was reading Black House for the first time. However, the story does such a great job of grabbing hold of you that I didn't really care much once it got moving. And judging by the way Black House ends, I think you'll get your wish with the third installment.
costanza
October 14th, 2009, 02:09 PM
I forget the page and the exact quote. When I was going through Talisman last week, it's mentioned a couple of times by Phil that he could feel other worlds even more beautiful, beyond the Territories, when he flips. I got the goosebumps thinking he was talking about Mid-World or the Inner Baronies or where ever he was "lined up" with.
Prince of Darkness
October 21st, 2009, 09:38 AM
I forget the page and the exact quote. When I was going through Talisman last week, it's mentioned a couple of times by Phil that he could feel other worlds even more beautiful, beyond the Territories, when he flips. I got the goosebumps thinking he was talking about Mid-World or the Inner Baronies or where ever he was "lined up" with.
Hi,
I thought of Boo'Ya Moon.
Long days and pleasant nights
costanza
October 21st, 2009, 02:17 PM
Hi,
I thought of Boo'Ya Moon.
Long days and pleasant nights
I'm not familiar with Boo'Ya Moon. Do you have more info or a link?
Doc Wilson
October 21st, 2009, 03:21 PM
Booya Moon is a place from Lisey's Story.
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