Frick.

**GNTLGNT** · 1 Week Ago

y'know...GNT...with all due respect...that was a bit unrealistic...and far more harsh than i'd expect...

...and with all due respect, I don't care if you feel it's harsh....I understand what you are all saying...but the fact remains that this woman IS her off-spring, no matter how perverted her means of conception...I am going to be the one attacked here and that's fine...I can deal with it, I am of the polar opposite obviously-I still feel the "mother" should meet "the daughter"...she had no choice in her conception...ah, to hell with it-I'm gonna get nowhere with this....I apologize and recuse myself from further discussion...

**FlakeNoir** · 1 Week Ago

This is incredibly sad and frightening, for the both of them. On the one hand we have someone who had an atrocious thing done to her that resulted in her life being irrevocably altered, leaving her incapable of facing the lasting 'physical evidence' if you like, of what happened to her.
And on the other hand we have somebody who is here as the result of that atrocious act, who has to live with the knowledge that on her paternal side, is a person that hurt somebody very badly--and on her maternal side, is a person that is incapable of (even) acknowledging her.
These two human's are her physical make-up, her DNA.. the part of herself that she has very little control over. What must that feel like?

I haven't read too much of their story, but I do hope (so much) that the 'child' of the two, was raised by a loving family so that she has this to draw from. And I wish peace for the biological mother, because it sounds like this is something she may never be able to put fully behind her.

**Spideyman** · 1 Week Ago

Vey wise words, Flake. Inner peace for the child, biological mother, and the adoptive parents.

**mjs9153** · 1 Week Ago

Not attackin ya GNT,just disagreeing,you are one of the most respected and loved members of this board from everything I have read over my time here..just look at how strongly some feel just from reading this article,even though not ever going to meet or interact with these people..can't imagine being one of them or part of their family.As for recusing yourself, you better not big man, we can agree to disagree amicably,that is the cool part of this forum..love the GNT!!

**GNTLGNT** · 1 Week Ago

...I appreciate it man...I'm not offended and fully support amicable disagreement and discussion...but this topic has torn me up deep down and emotion is guiding my thoughts and fingers instead of well-structured dialog...I mean nothing harsh to anyone really, just upset and flailing about...though I DO stand by my opinions...still, until I can think without my mental thermostat set on "scourge"...better I just look & listen...

**FlakeNoir** · 1 Week Ago

(((GNT))) It's a crappy situation all round.

**mjs9153** · 1 Week Ago

I hear ya...these kinds of topics sure get to the quick of human nature.On one side we want to feel empathy for the victim of this brutal act,on the other you wish maternal instincts would win out..life just isn't so neat and simple,is it?

My final thought on the matter is the child is now fifty or approaching it as I recall,and I think it's time she realized her birth mother is not her mom at all,and be thankful for those she does have in her life..just me..hope they all eventually reach some type of resolution within themselves..

**Todash** · 1 Week Ago

I think the whole thing is just sad. This is the opposite of a victimless crime. It's lousy with victims.

It's a shame that the woman who was raped cannot seem to comprehend that her biological daughter is just as much a victim as she is. I'm not saying that she should feel compelled to meet her, but I think there's a way to say "Look, I just don't want to meet you; I wish you well but I cannot meet you" without characterizing the biological daughter, who had even less choice than the biological mother in the matter, as some sort of deranged, evil stalker.

People deal with trauma differently, and it seems to me that the way the bio mother dealt with it was to stuff it down, to hide it, to pretend it never happened--pretty dysfunctional, really. And yes, it does seem that she lacks compassion for anyone but herself. Being a victim of a horrible crime does not automatically make someone into a saint.

For my part, if being raped is going to permanently strip me of my personality, my humanity, my ability to connect with other people--you know what, just go ahead and murder me too. It's just THAT sad.

**guido tkp** · 1 Week Ago

i deeply apologize, dear GNt, if you took my missive as an attack...it certainly was not meant as such...and i'd like to ditto everything friend MJS said in post #834

obviously...now...i sense a ...third rail at work...

beg pardon, sai