I'm generally in line with Dana Jean, guido, and Tery on the subject. Which means I do not think I have any kind perfect answer, because the circumstances of each case are different. Since we live in a finite world with limited resources, I would point out some of the costs in a different manner. The time from booking to execution continues to grow. I understand that costs are now $50,000+ per year to house an inmate. If they are there for 20 years (which is getting more common) that is $1,000,000 in expenses (and the longer they stay the more it piles up). Notice the chart on this site. http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/time-death-row
Is it better to house and feed the innocent hungry, or house and feed killers, many with no remorse for their crime? I have a feeling if budget cuts continue, we, as a society, may have to revist this question with a different perspective. And if not death, is there something more creative as an answer, as sometimes is written about in near future sci-fi books.
120 miles S of the Waffle/Pancake line in pancake territory
Re: Senate Bill 19
I'm generally opposed to the death penalty. Not for any moral reasons but more for practical reasons. You'll never find me outside a prison at a candlelight vigil for one of these guys but there are many things about the death penalty that don't work.
First off, Tiny is right - Justice should not be about revenge.
The cost of going through all of this and the burden it puts on the victims families. After all of this expense and pain, very few actually get executed.
I also think it adversely affects the outcome of some trials when the prosecution is waving it around at trial. I think the Casey Anthony trial is one. This could be fixed, however if the death penalty was taken out of the jury's hands and put solely in the judge's hands at sentencing. No mention of it at all until sentencing, then the jury has no idea if there is any chance for the death penalty or not.
We (the US) are way to pig-headed about this. There was a case I read about a few years ago where we had some serial rapist-murderer that escaped to Mexico. The Mexican government found him and was perfectly willing to extradite the guy providing we didn't exercise the death penalty. We refused to take him under those conditions. How freaking stupid is that?
The state of Delaware (where all the zipCodes start with 19) has
passes a gay marriage bill. This is good news for our
bi-polar state . now we just need to get rid of the death penalty.
the bill to get rid of it is named : Senate Bill 19
After experiencing the system from the inside, I can say there are some people who can't be rehabilitated. I am not talking about habitual meth heads. I am talking about the sociopaths.
There are women who have killed, and would do it again given the chance. nothing caused them to kill, it wasn't because they were abused, or on drugs, they kill because they are evil. they will do it again, and have no remorse. And the worst part is they don't mind life in prison. I believe there is a name for this mentality. I call it trash. pure trash.
Originally Posted by GNTLGNT
...well, here goes....you thinks it's stupid...but most who hold that opinion have never seen the havoc wrought by those convicted and sentenced to die...I know that many will disagree with me, and that's OK-and yes, I work in Corrections...but I felt this way before I wallowed in the daily life of inmates...death is to good for them, and because of our screwed up judicial system-takes way to long to be meted out...putting a burden on taxpayers, the facilities, staff etc...and no closure for the families...I'm am unswervingly in the camp of "an eye for an eye"...case in point-here in my hometown, a colleague of mine was brutally raped by her boyfriend, and afterward..he showed her the body of her son, whom he had savagely murdered....he's still awiting his death date...believe me, I would be more than happy to pinch hit for the Grim Reaper...so while I respect your opinion....I will never ever agree with it...
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How can the DP NOT act as a deterrent? If we fixed our judicial system and actually executed these psycho's say a WEEK or LESS after they're proven guilty, wouldn't you say that would cause other psycho's to pause and think, hmmmm, maybe I better straighten the hell up? I don't know I'm with GiaNT on this one. As long as they are 110% guilty and NOT able to be rehabilitated then zap em, hang em, inject em, or cover 'em in honey because, "As far as i'm concerned there ain't no excuse for the raping and the killing and the child abuse. I got a way to put an end to all that mess...you just take them rascals out in the swamp and put 'em on their knees and tie 'em to a stump, let the rattlers and the bugs and the alligators do the rest."
pretty simple, sucka...for...........eons...'civilizations' have had it...used it.....they took 'em right on out a'n hung 'em from the town square... drowned 'em in vats of oil...shot 'em...chopped thier 'eads off...drawed n quarter'd them...nickle n dimed 'em, too...
never stopped a bleedin' 'nother one'a'em from goin' right on out 'n killin' further on down the road o' time...
a bastid wot wants ta kill will do so regardless of any danged law or wot society sez...anyone who sez otherwise is a foo', sir !