Laws against murder do nothing to prevent murder. They only punish the offenders. Sadly, the victim is an eternal one.
Regardless, I am not talking only about the right to not be killed. I'm talking about the INALIENABLE rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Because our country is so much more dangerous than other comparable countries, and because guns make it so as evidenced by available data, my right to a reasonable level of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is arguably unnecessarily infringed upon by this country's very poorly controlled access to guns.
Every resident of the United States has the right to have a reasonable expectation that they are not living in the most homicidal affluent country in the world. That right is currently being infringed upon.
But then, as is often is said, the only people that will have guns, will be the bad guys. Defensive uses of firearms are estimated to be around 600,000-1 million per year. Some say it is higher, some say it is lower. But this is a median number. Disarmament will lead to 1 million more victims of crime(homicide and other crime) every year. A policy of disarmament victimizes Americans far more than them owning semi automatic rifles.
Take a look at Chicago for a good example of how disarmament of the civilian population goes. It has gotten so bad, that the police force is no longer even responding in person to 'minor' crimes....per policy.
They are living in basically a lawless society, and the people have basically no way to defend themselves because of out of control 'gun controls'
As far as civilians never have been being allowed to own them....what guns are you referring to? A civilian AR15 or a military M16? There is a pretty big difference.
An AR15 is nothing more than a magazine fed semi automatic rifle. There are literally hundreds of models of this type of firearm. Literally with tens of millions in civilians hands. And considering their very infrequent use in crime or homicide(as stated, a blunt instrument kills more people per year than a magazine fed semi automatic rifle), then statistically...magazine fed semi automatic firearms are one of the safest instruments to defend oneself with available today. Heck, more people die every year from hands and feet than by a semi automatic rifle...or ANY rifle for that matter. Should we cut off peoples hands and feet as well? /rollseyes
What conveniently gets ignored when opponents of gun control cite the statistics about Chicago and other areas with stricter gun controls is the fact that although they have strict gun laws, surrounding areas do not and they can be legally purchased elsewhere and then brought into Chicago, etc. Which confirms my argument that as long as they are legally available anywhere, proponents of unrestricted gun rights are part of the problem by not doing more to prevent access to them.
Whether you agree with one sides views or not, both are the exact same thing, and neither are 'unbiased'.
As far as 'gun control' being the biggest factor in reducing gun violence....please cite these statistics.
Gun violence is no different than any violence. The causes of violence are socioeconomic factors. The tool that someone used to commit a violent act is not the cause of the violent act. Until those wanting 'gun control' realize this, they will always be 'gun grabbers' and not 'violence solvers'
If you want to lower violence....any violence, you need to actually deal with the underlying issues that actually cause violence,
The Drug War
Lack of Education
Lack of job opportunities
Lack of stable family units
Lack of mental health treatments
Work on those problems if you want to actually 'lower violence' in this country. I know that is harder. And it is why it is easier for a politican to stand in front of a poster board full of guns and say 'she is tough on violence and crime' because she wants to outlaw a bunch of firearms. But she is actually contributing to the problem of crime, thus increasing violence, by disarming citizens.
And what often gets conveniently ignored in regards to the high murder rate in Chicago, is the fact that we don’t discuss that in part -- Chicago’s high murder rate could be attributed to law-abiding citizens not allowed to carry guns and defend themselves. Or that if ownership of a majority of firearms were made illegal, guns would just be smuggled into the country in much greater numbers to fill the demand of criminals -- just like drugs which are illegal?
Now, speaking to the latest reincarnation of OPMM, GL, etc. etc., your "thread" long ago called for this, but I have been off my game as of late.
Today, I shall eat a burrito for lunch. Not just any normal burrito, but a delicious Taco Bus jumbo burrito. I tell ya folks, these things are amazing. They are truly authentic Mexican. The Bus is becoming famous here in good old Pinellas County, Florida. Now, it is normally a downtown St. Pete thing only, but I made a call and got them to come near me due to the large number of businesses and industrial parks in a concentrated area. They posted flyers around on folks' cars last week saying they are coming today, and NO ONE is more excited than me!! I tell ya what, I am tickled pink and green if ever I was.
Now this may seem off topic, but you see when the thinly veiled attempt to "debate", wrapped in the illogical and dismissive-to-reality blanket of the neocon mind, rares its fugly head in the middle of more salient thinkers, it is simply time in that thread to
Now I got my bone to pick with you Mod and Jordan. I asked nicely for a burrito and/or possum themed emoticon from the smiley list, but NADA!!!! Help a guy out here, OK?? But back to the nonsense tripe spewing from the "rite" ( I use that spelling to denote the faith based version of "logic" espoused in right wing views [and purported to be opinion, not some form of pseudo-religious canon] such as " I gots my rights from the (G)god(s), not some damn guv'ment" or whatever nonsense my favorite remaining, yet not new, neocon was blathering on about earlier)... have a burrito!! After all, logic dictates that if you're chewing on a big fat burrito, it is almost impossible for you to speak more silliness. Let the deliciousness of it permeate you and settle your ire. Burritos have this power...
Besides, a debate isn't what you want. It's simply to let us all know how silly WE are and show us mercy and rain pity upon us; the genesis of which lies in golden cities of lore from whence thee came. Magical bergs these, bereft of any divergence; paved only with the flagstones of the truly learned and intellectual. Such micro-cephalics as the typical SKMBer to which you refer, could never dare dream to understand the vast complexities of your advanced thoughts and ways. To the uninitiated as us, we are too simple to see the depth inherent. Rather only interpreting such pontifications as paranoia. Oh, how wrong thy words have collectively proved us to be.
As such, burritos for all. And to all, a gassy night.