Your thoughts about Steve's essay

[Lily Sawyer]

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[Patricia A]

I just finished reading Guns, wow. I'd like to shout out an amen from the choir.
I was reading something someone said about storing and stockpiling weapons to stave off government forces, because they wholeheartedly believe that the government will eventually come knocking at their door to take all their stuff and enslave them.... wot?
I'd like to counter that supposition with the fact that if the government decided to invade us (actually "us" "is" "the government") we'd all be dead meat on a pogo stick no matter how many guns we stash in our closets and under out pillows... can you say drone? Can you say a well planned accidental release of a deadly virus?
I have nothing against guns or their ownership, but I strongly support the "well regulated" part of said ownership deal. That's my two cents.

[Moderator]

And don't make it personal. Just an observation, but for the most part all of the discussions in this forum and in Hot Topics since the Sandy Hook massacre that have been between members who have been here for a while were respectful even when expressing differences of opinions. Please let's continue to take the high road when posting and maintain that level of civility and lead by example that we can agree to disagree.

[PatInTheHat]

We have no idea what happened at sandy hook. None. Get it?

An idea by an expert on having absolutely no idea.....yeah there should be an ironic country song in there somewhere, doncha reckon

[Todash]

Actually it was obama who used twenty dead kids to push his agenda. Press conference flanked by little kids when this guy routinely oks drone strikes that slaughter women and children...but that's ok huh?

unbelievable...

Have you been venting about war your whole life? Because guess what, that's what war is. (Don't believe me? Talk to some Vietnam vets and ask them about what they saw and did. Or does the word Hiroshima ring a bell?) No, it's not okay. It's not okay at all. But if you didn't mind until the current Commander in Chief started overseeing operations, then you don't have a leg to stand on.

[Sepia and Dust]

Your lack of critical thinking sickens me.
We have no idea what happened at sandy hook. None. Get it?

When the media bungles and misreports we are left to conclude they have no integrity.

Do you have any idea of the discrepancies and inconsistencies surrounding this shooting?

the point is there shouldn't be any! At all! So we are left with poignant questions regarding a complete mess of a case.

unbeleivabe. Attacked for wanting answers to simple questions! And this is America?

Were 20 children and six innocent adults killed in the shooting? Yes.

Was the shooting committed with a gun? Surprisingly, yes.

What else matters? What inconsistency or discrepancy, what poignant question could possibly add or remove anything?

Disgusting.

[Todash]

And what part of my repeated comments that I would favor Background Checks on all gun purchases, and a possible reinstatement of the Assault Weapons Ban of 1996, is it that you don't seem to comprehend? Or is it that I'm not willing to lay down and have someone who supposedly knows better than poor old misguided me, run roughshod over my thoughts and convictions, that really rubs you wrong?

Per the moderator's most reasonable and excellent reminder, I am responding to this elsewhere. (Sorry I started that here, Ms. Mod.)

[Chuggs]

Arguments like these are interesting to me, because on both sides people feel that they are 100% correct. Logic would seem to say that the actual correct path would be in the middle, but then again, logic is not always correct. But I understand that some poeple's opinions are different than mine, and that is fine. Our opinions and beliefs are just that, ours, so civilaty would make the arguments go smoother, and perhaps we could get somewhere. As it is, poeple on both sides are passionate, which is also good, so all of these things tend to contradict one another. Its part of being human, I think.

[Todash]

An idea by an expert on having absolutely no idea.....yeah there should be an ironic country song in there somewhere, doncha reckon

Throw in prison, mama, a train, the rain, drinking, and pickup trucks, and you got yourself a certified hit.

[Todash]

I just finished reading Guns, wow. I'd like to shout out an amen from the choir.
I was reading something someone said about storing and stockpiling weapons to stave off government forces, because they wholeheartedly believe that the government will eventually come knocking at their door to take all their stuff and enslave them.... wot?
I'd like to counter that supposition with the fact that if the government decided to invade us (actually "us" "is" "the government") we'd all be dead meat on a pogo stick no matter how many guns we stash in our closets and under out pillows... can you say drone? Can you say a well planned accidental release of a deadly virus?
I have nothing against guns or their ownership, but I strongly support the "well regulated" part of said ownership deal. That's my two cents.

That's actually a really good point. Not to feed the paranoia, but if the gubmint wants to kill us (and if it does, what will it eat?) then it will not come a-knockin' with handguns. Or even machine guns.