I have to applaud your arrogance, though. The high level of it is amazing. You know what everyone has done, thinks and also what it's like to be a woman carrying a child. And pontificate bloated balls of tripe to illustrate it.
Me personally, I would have given up or perhaps recounted my stance after the first 3 or 4 people told me how utterly disgusting my opinions are. But hey "don't mess with Texas" right?
What a joke.
Besides, wouldn't this fall under a government body telling someone what to do about their health care decisions by forcing this? I thought the neocon nuts were against that.
Who has to pay for this extra procedure and the training to do it proeprly? Taxes? Hell no!!!! That is the most immoral thing of all!!
I really do take offence to your using the terms "women who want to kill" and "pro death"
In respect to your commentstotally agree ... if a woman decides to have a child without the agreement of the sperm donor - then why should he have to pay for it for decades.A woman currently can make a man have a baby and pay for it for decades. That is NOT equality under the law.
If a woman cannot afford to have a child and raise it herself ... then there are decisions to be made ... adopt, abort or find another way of getting the money required.
I'm a firm believer that it is the womans choice as to whether or not to abort a pregnancy. I do however class myself as Anti Abortion. that being said, i do not hold anything against or blame women who have chosen to have one. What i am opposed to is the lack of options for women and parents who find themselves in situations where abortion is the only way out. If you want to fight abortion, stop attacking these poor women and the doctors trying to help them and start crusading the government. Better education is needed within schools, financial and emotional support is needed for married women who already have 4 kids and cant see a way to having the 5th. Better access to adoption services is needed right across the board. Support for fathers willing to take the baby, support for victims of rape etc etc. For gods sake people, stop fighting for a word where abortion is illegal and start fighting for a world where its unnecessary!!
To answer the original question, as cruel as it may seem, i dont have all that much against a woman having to listen to the heartbeat of the foetus. This is because not only do i believe in choice, i believe in an informed choice. All the women who choose to have an abortion know exactly what they would be giving up if they were to have the baby, but many of them dont understand what they give up when choosing to abort. This understanding can come much later on and can have a devastating effect to many women, long after their access to post abortion councilling is available. By forcing women to face what they are doing at the time, i think they can begin the process of healing that much faster. Whilst it may seem very very cruel, i think for many, in the long run, facing up to it at the beginning when more support is available to them is better then having that realisation 5 years or 10 years down the track when, potentially, after having spent so much time keeping the secret, there is NO ONE to help them. or at least, no one they feel they can turn too.
I am aware that i support something for a completely different reason then that of the politicians who raised it. and i do kinda hate myself a little...
So are you saying that because you are a man, it would be just fine for you to have unprotected sex with a woman, make a child with her, and blame her for wanting to have the child...and say she is forcing you to pay for decades when you are asked to share the financial responsibility for raising the child?..... What if you rape a woman, conceive a child, and she decides to give birth?....legally you are still financially responsible.... Are you going to cry "foul"?
Sir, I believe your arrogant ignorance is beginning to show.
A woman cannot conceive an unwanted child without the participation of a man, after all.
Hear, hear, Sunny.
Long days and pleasant nights
Additionally, this is also using government regulation to force a medical requirement or procedure and a ideological agenda at the same time. It seems regulations are OK with the right wing when it's their agenda that is being forced by said regulation. But it's a STATE regulation, so that makes it OK. Equal protection is most definitely ensured by wildly different local requirements and regulations.... fancy!!
Another height of hypocrisy from the right. And just when I thought they were slipping. Way to go!
The reason that Mrs Petersons baby was considered one count of murder is because if that baby had been born right then, he or she would have been able to sustain it's own life (breath on it's own) outside of Mrs Peterson. An 8 week or 12 week fetus cannot. Do ya kennit?
I'm so done with this and arguing against someone who tries to be purposely ignorant and Mr Kale's completely backwards attitude towards women who have the right to make a choice about their own body. Until it can survive outside of the womb, that fetus is part and parcel of the woman's body and women have a choice whether or not to continue the pregnancy. Controlling what a woman does with her body is sexist and we have fought for CENTURIES to be able to take back control of our own bodies. I realize that other people's beliefs differ from my own and I accept that. If you are against abortions, don't have one. But don't presume to take that choice away from someone else. My mother is a devout catholic and she is anti abortion but is smart enough to know that it's wrong to force her beliefs on another person.