Norma Crandall was resurrected?

**GNTLGNT** · January 1st, 2013

but if you're going to invent things whole-cloth, why not really go for broke?

...that's the whole point of speculative fun...it's based on a fiction within a fiction-not your so-called internal evidence Inspector Reality-Check...but you continue to believe what you wish, because the only thing offensive here is your sense of superiority...apologize to Mr. Severn-it's his parade you rained on, I don't need or want it...

**Sundrop** · January 1st, 2013

While I don't think that Norma was resurrected, I do think that it is quite possible that Louis could have lived. We are not told what happened to Louis, We are simply left with the ending line that still gives me a chill with every re read....and to our own imaginations as to what happened to Louis. We do have the passage about Timmy Baterman, and his father, Bill. Bill did end up killing Timmy a few weeks after resurrecting him. We also know that Bill killed himself.....but we know that Louis was probably a lot smarter than Bill. Louis was, after all, a doctor. So yeah, I think it's entirely possible for Louis to have lived....at least for a while.

I agree with Daniel.....speculating about what could have happened is fun.
I also agree with GNT.....It is not fun to have an argument pushed uppn me just because I might read a text and develop my own opinion that differs from yours.

Why argue about a moot point?.... You have your opinion based on your own interpretation of the book, and I have mine...so does everyone else.
It does not bother me in the least that someone imagines a different end for Louis than I imagine.... But it does bother me when someone arrogantly tells me what I did and did not read in any given text....you can't read my mind, and you really don't have "insider information" to support your theory, either.
I happen to think that it is perfectly fine to discuss some endings in a fun "what if" manner. A great writer is able to transport several readers in several different directions, making the story truly remarkable for each individual. Who are we to squish any reader's theory?

**Daniel Lee Severn** · January 2nd, 2013

Originally Posted by bryantburnette

Believe whatever you want to believe. It's fine by me. But when someone posts something in a public forum, it's an invitation to discussion, and my viewpoint on this issue is that reading things into a text that the text does not support is an act of faulty reading. There is simply nothing to support the idea that Jud resurrected Norma. It isn't there.

Why not speculate further that not only does Louis not die in the end of the novel, but survives, vanquishes his zombie wife, moves out of town, changes his name to Alan Pangborn, gets remarried, and gets a job working for the police department? There's nothing in any of King's books to support that idea, but if you're going to invent things whole-cloth, why not really go for broke?

Relax man, nobody is trying to say you aren't allowed to have an opinion, we are just having fun with a theory that may have no weight to it but is interesting to speculate about. Allow me to quote you, "I apologize if my point of view on some of these things offends your sensibilities, but that's the danger of interacting with other people; sometimes they disagree with you." Yes I can use your words against you, lol.

**Daniel Lee Severn** · January 2nd, 2013

Originally Posted by GNTLGNT

...that's the whole point of speculative fun...it's based on a fiction within a fiction-not your so-called internal evidence Inspector Reality-Check...but you continue to believe what you wish, because the only thing offensive here is your sense of superiority...apologize to Mr. Severn-it's his parade you rained on, I don't need or want it...

I don't need an apology either, I did not start this thread, so the OP deserves an apology.

**bryantburnette** · January 3rd, 2013

Originally Posted by Sundrop

A great writer is able to transport several readers in several different directions, making the story truly remarkable for each individual. Who are we to squish any reader's theory?

Good point, and fair enough.

To clarify, my point was so much that I feel it to inarguably be the case that Louis dies. I think he does, but ultimately, that's just my interpretation; and the Bill/Timmy thing is actually a really good point of evidence indicating that things might have gone differently.

Instead, the point I'm dead-set against is the idea that Jud resurrects Norma, and my rationale for that stance is that the text itself says nothing to indicate that that is the case. Those events would have had to occur entirely off-page, and I just don't think King had any such intentions.

However, apparently I've been unable to make that point without coming off like an a-hole. Apologies for that; 'tweren't my intent. Cry pardon, and all that.

I'm not a bad-guy, I promise!

**bryantburnette** · January 3rd, 2013

Originally Posted by Daniel Lee Severn

Allow me to quote you, "I apologize if my point of view on some of these things offends your sensibilities, but that's the danger of interacting with other people; sometimes they disagree with you." Yes I can use your words against you, lol.

Isn't it great when you get to do that to someone?

I hate to be on the receiving end of it, of course, but hey, it's fair.

**GNTLGNT** · January 3rd, 2013

I hate to be on the receiving end of it,

....words you never want to hear when working in a men's prison...

**Sepia and Dust** · January 3rd, 2013

Whulp... now I have to go read Pet Sematary again....

Mr. King: "Is that how you spell uzi?"
Mr. Straub: "I dunno... how do you spell cemetery...."

I wonder if that's a true story.

**Sundrop** · January 3rd, 2013

Originally Posted by bryantburnette

Good point, and fair enough.

To clarify, my point was so much that I feel it to inarguably be the case that Louis dies. I think he does, but ultimately, that's just my interpretation; and the Bill/Timmy thing is actually a really good point of evidence indicating that things might have gone differently.

Instead, the point I'm dead-set against is the idea that Jud resurrects Norma, and my rationale for that stance is that the text itself says nothing to indicate that that is the case. Those events would have had to occur entirely off-page, and I just don't think King had any such intentions.

However, apparently I've been unable to make that point without coming off like an a-hole. Apologies for that; 'tweren't my intent. Cry pardon, and all that.

I'm not a bad-guy, I promise!

Isn't it great when you allow others to discull and share differing opinions? As I stated earlier, I don't believe that Norma was resurrected.....but It was worth hearing the OP's theory.
I think Louis may have lived....you don't. That's cool. All I ask is for the same consideration that you would want me to give to your interpretation.

Apology accepted.......and btw, we all look like perfect azzhats now and then.

I'm not really weird, just in case you've heard differently........okay, maybe a little

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