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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    Most states in the US abide by variations of the "Castle Doctrine", which provides legal residents with immunity from prosecution for using deadly force in the defense of their dwelling. I lived in...
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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    THEY valued my stereo over their own lives. THEY kicked my door down, willing to risk whatever might happen to them, or to whomever might be on the other side of that door. What I did was totally...
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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    No, there's no joke here. You know what the police said when they came to cart the unconscious piece of **** off to jail (by way of the hospital)? "Looks like this guy broke into the wrong...
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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    Yeah, I'm the bad guy here. Two morons valued their own lives less than they valued my stereo amplifier (and whatever else they might have carted off had I not been home at the time), which I worked...
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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    The cases I've mentioned show why you can't always count on one or two or three, or even five, rounds effectively stopping an attacker. As the title of my thread states "sometimes" 10 rounds is not...
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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    I've beaten several people within an inch of their lives. And they had it coming.

    Years ago when I was sharing an apartment at college, a couple of morons kicked my door in. I was upstairs about...
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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    He followed one of her kids upstairs, and she retreated all the way into a crawl space to get away from him first. That doesn't seem like something a mere burglar would do. In any case, she had every...
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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    How is that relevant? You're desperately grabbing at straws to avoid admitting that you're wrong. The bottom line is that a person shot multiple times with handgun bullets can sometimes persist in an...
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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    She's a hero to many, including myself. Are you seriously advocating homeowners abandon their homes to anyone that would care to force their way in? What do you suppose would happen to crime rates,...
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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    Tell that to the families of the FBI agents that lost their lives, despite shooting a criminal multiple times in the torso with 9mm rounds. Often times soldiers in battle and law enforcement officers...
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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    People "should" not inflict harm on other people. People "should" not break into other peoples' homes and businesses to steal their property. But, they do. Thus making it necessary for people to...
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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    It does not matter what he chose to do after being shot. It is not relevant to my point. My point is that he WAS NOT INCAPACITATED by five .38 caliber rounds. I've mentioned other cases where guys...
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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    She was OUT OF AMMO! He didn't need to beg her to stop doing anything. HE GOT UP AND DROVE AWAY! If he had the capacity to flee the scene and drive off, he had the capacity to persist in whatever...
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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    He broke into her house. You can't know what he might have done other than flee. The point is that he was still capable of fleeing the house and driving off, not what his intent was at that point....
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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    The person I replied to was questioning exactly that.



    In the recorded call during the incident, he said "like I showed you" to his wife. So, apparently he gave her at least one shooting...
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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    You should practice enough to be proficient at the very minimum. And most people that keep guns for self defense, also enjoy target shooting. But, even if you're a pistol shooting champion, having 16...
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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    If you're going to keep a loaded gun with the intention of using it in self defense, you should become proficient in firing it, obviously. But, when confronted with a life or death situation, the...
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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    I'm not advocating that people "spray and pray" with their eyes closed. One should be as careful as possible to avoid shooting innocent bystanders.
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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    Your post is such a jumbled incoherent mess, I'm not sure whether you're arguing with me or against me :p We're talking about whether or not private citizens should have magazines that hold more than...
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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    What will YOU say to the families of law-abiding citizens who were unable to stop an assault on their loved ones and themselves, because some ill conceived law was passed that robbed them of the...
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    Re: Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    The woman did all she could to get away from the intruder first, retreating all the way into a crawl space. He followed one of her kids upstairs, with a crowbar in his hands. And then she did what...
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    Sometimes 10 rounds isn't enough.

    Stephen quipped in his essay that if you can't kill an intruder (or your wife in the act of raiding the fridge) with 10 rounds, you need to go back to the shooting range.

    In response to that...
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