Arnette?

[unclelouie]

So Im finally half-way thru 11/22/63- I have been so busy days and nights with work and other stuff, the reading has been slow, but I love this novel so far. And I started thinking.... the football game George and Sadie go to is against a team from Arnette Texas.

Now.... this begs the obvious (maybe). Is this the same Arnette team that Stu Redman would play for many years later? Afterall Arnette Texas doesn't exist in the Keystone world (our world). There is no actual Arnette Texas in our world.

So yeah is the world that Jake Epping inhabits in the late 50s/early 60s a parrallel America.... the same America which the superflu would happen 30 years later? The same America Roland and his Ka-Tet would encounter Charlie the Choo Choo in 30 years later? And if so, that means our friends from Derry... Ritchie, Bev, Ben, Bill, et al. would die as adults in 1990 from the superflu, just several years after their 80s reunion in Derry. Afterall, we know ol' Ritchie and Bev exist in the world of George Amberson (he met em).

I think I may be right... afterall... the number 19 pops of continuosly throughout this book... and # 19 usually signifies something dark and other worldly... just my humble opinion...

[GNTLGNT]

...I think you may be reasoning correectly, and if not-what the hey?...it's still a fun thought...

[unclelouie]

See, Im thinking....


When Jake entered 1958 the first couple times, and encountered the yellow card man, I think he was entering Keystone Earth (his own Earth.. 1958). When he encountered the orange card man, I think he entered an alternate America and returned to that versions 2011 instead of his own. On his final trip, when the yellow card man was dead, I think he entered the alterate world of 19....

Does anyone think this is far off from accurate?

[Neesy]

So Im finally half-way thru 11/22/63- I have been so busy days and nights with work and other stuff, the reading has been slow, but I love this novel so far. And I started thinking.... the football game George and Sadie go to is against a team from Arnette Texas.

Now.... this begs the obvious (maybe). Is this the same Arnette team that Stu Redman would play for many years later? Afterall Arnette Texas doesn't exist in the Keystone world (our world). There is no actual Arnette Texas in our world.

So yeah is the world that Jake Epping inhabits in the late 50s/early 60s a parrallel America.... the same America which the superflu would happen 30 years later? The same America Roland and his Ka-Tet would encounter Charlie the Choo Choo in 30 years later? And if so, that means our friends from Derry... Ritchie, Bev, Ben, Bill, et al. would die as adults in 1990 from the superflu, just several years after their 80s reunion in Derry. Afterall, we know ol' Ritchie and Bev exist in the world of George Amberson (he met em).

I think I may be right... afterall... the number 19 pops of continuosly throughout this book... and # 19 usually signifies something dark and other worldly... just my humble opinion...

In the interview with EW, on page 3 on-line he says:

Have you gone back to re-read any of your other novels?
Not a whole lot. I read It again. I had to do that because I wanted to use it in 11/22/63 – not just because some of the characters from It show up, but because a lot of it was set in [the fictional town of] Derry, Maine, and didn’t remember the geography. I had to go back to and be as careful as I could to get everything to fit together so there would be a smooth transition from one to the other.

Later on he talks about "Easter eggs" which is what his son called references to other books that are sort of hidden :-)


Black House, the book you co-authored with Peter Straub, was a sequel to The Talisman. And you’ve written a couple short stories that follow previous books, so this isn’t totally alien territory for you. Most of your books are interconnected. Familiar characters and places tend to pop up. And The Dark Tower series wove everything together.
My son calls those things Easter eggs. There’s a little ‘Salem’s Lot Easter egg in Doctor Sleep. I don’t know if anyone will spot it or not, but it’s there. All of the books kind of relate to other ones. The only exception is The Stand, where the whole world gets destroyed. I guess it’s sort of like Stephen King World, the malevolent version of Disney World, where everything fits together.

Sorry to put in such a lengthy reply however it is not MY essay - just some quotes. I like the way it ends:


I definitely want to buy tickets to Stephen King World.
Let’s put it this way – if there was a Stephen King World, people would only go on the rides … once. Good interview!:y:

[champ1966]

See, Im thinking....


When Jake entered 1958 the first couple times, and encountered the yellow card man, I think he was entering Keystone Earth (his own Earth.. 1958).

Great thoughts louie.I'm pretty sure you can't travel back in time in the Keystone World though

[unclelouie]

Great thoughts louie.I'm pretty sure you can't travel back in time in the Keystone World though

Good point.... I overlooked that "key" principle of time travel re: The Keystone Earth.

Perhaps Jake is simply entering alternate Americas each time he goes thru the rabbit hole? Afterall, the world Jake comes from is not the world of The Stand.... unless they did some serious re-building and re-populating between 1990 and 2011!!!!!!!!

[champ1966]

It makes your head hurt if you think about it too much