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tuttle300
August 3rd, 2012, 06:32 AM
I would post a link to the article but I am not sure that is allowed though you all can google it and find it

According to this article, ( from Deadline Hollywood) Warners is talking to Russel Crowe for the massive Dark Tower project

They are about to read the script for the Dark Tower project and a decision should come down in two weeks if not sooner If they say okey dokey to funding it, I suspect pre-production will start this Fall

That's IF they say okay

I hate to be a wet blanket here but I will again go on record saying this is all doomed to fail BECAUSE - despite our many hopes and dreams-- the studio IS looking at the bigger picture

At 8 books in length- and considering they are not as popular in sales as any number of King's singular efforts--there just isn't a big enough audience out there to support such a huge project

Especially switching formats the way they have planned..... two or three major feature films and then a two season TV series set to run in between the films????

Here's a better more practical idea......How about condense the best portions of all eight books and make a large budget three season series on AMC or HBO and be sure to only have 10 to 13 episodes per season and be doubly sure the cast and crew agree to a limited tight budget. This means that everyone will take a pay cut and THAT means it will be a more attractive project to the studio

Even better is if they can film on location in Canada or someplace

And maybe even tell the story AS one long story. Don't break it up into "chapters" that signal where in the story we are compared to the books ( like Wolves of Calle for instance) because even while it would be a good cross promotion for the books , I doubt most people watching this would run to the store the next day and buy the book.. especially when they find out there are EIGHT books in the series

And THEN the studio needs to be committed TO the series so it all gets all three seasons filmed and then let the chips fall where they may-- unless of course the ratings numbers truly signal that nobody is watching then they have no choice but to cancel

But sticking to TV and locking in a limit of three seasons is the only way for this to possibly work--

If they stick to this current plan of jumping back and forth between film and television ( more than once) I would imagine the money they need to spend for the marketing ALONE is going to be a huge amount since you have to remind the people who went to see the films that the next portion of the project is running on TV and then after that you need to remind them to go back TO the theater to see the NEXT portion of the story etc etc etc)

And you all HAVE to know by now that very very few books adapted to film or television are able to keep everything in the book- there is simply no room nor time to fully adapt EVERYTHING from this book series. So while the mainstream audience may love the project, what we dont need is for a thouand fans of the books to go online bitchin' that there were favorite parts from the book that didnt make the cut

Lets step outside the fandom box a moment

You have to seriously compare the readership numbers here Its a huge risk In fact I dare say its an ever bigger risk than Lord of the Rings ( and that was JUST three books)

But then again, Hollywood does step up now and then and takes risks.

But I personally dont see Russell Crowe committing an entire year (or more) of his life to this but hey, I could be wrong

What would be best is if they find a director and an actor who HAVE read the books or are at least somewhat familiar with the material outside the scope of Hollywood and then maybe you would have some people in there who are encouraged by the material and that will translate on the screen

And they need an unknown ( and someone who has a likeness to Eastwood) to play Roland with a good number of 'name' actors in supporting roles This way EVERYONE will be on board

But again-- this whole thing is a risk

( see while every adapted book has its own built in audience, that NEVER means that the much much much larger group of people who do not actively READ for their entertainment are aware of the book)

I hope it works of course as I too, am a Constant Reader just like you

But there are a variety of factors that have to line up for this project to fly including a commitment from several directors, a large cast- including a few "names" so that the mainstream audience will be attracted to it- as well as a dedicated crew

Even if it doesn't work, remember what Uncle Stevie always says....... the books will always be there

Any comments? Thoughts on this?

AchtungBaby
August 3rd, 2012, 09:11 AM
You made some excellent points there... If this gets the green light (big IF), I'll keep my expectations very low, that way if any of it is good, I'll be pleasantly surprised. Also, I'm not expecting much of W&G or Wolves to make the cut. They might want to stick to the main story, which is Roland and the ka-tet making their way to the Tower. I could be wrong, of course.

bobledrew
August 3rd, 2012, 10:04 AM
The lower your expectations, the more likely they will be exceeded.

As to Crowe's willingness to spend a year or more on the project? That will be defined by two things: how much money there is, and how much the project fits with his personal ideas and career plans. Peter Jackson seemed to be able to get his stars to commit to the massive production of LOTR.

fushingfeef
August 3rd, 2012, 11:10 AM
All I know is at this point if I even saw a teaser trailer, I would probably explode from excitement...so yeah, my expectations are going to be high no matter what.

GNTLGNT
August 5th, 2012, 04:18 PM
....so much supposition at this point...I'll reserve my expectations for when something concrete is put out there...

momone53
August 21st, 2012, 09:01 AM
Warner Bros. just took a pass so it looks like the wheel of KA must keep turning.

Moderator
August 21st, 2012, 09:22 AM
I spoke with Steve about this this morning and he told me that there is still a lot of interest and the project is not dead. There should be further developments announced by this fall (that's in the next 2-3 months for those of you in the southern hemisphere whose seasons aren't on our time line :smile2:).

jones18
August 21st, 2012, 10:27 AM
I spoke with Steve about this this morning and he told me that there is still a lot of interest and the project is not dead. There should be further developments announced by this fall (that's in the next 2-3 months for those of you in the southern hemisphere whose seasons aren't on our time line :smile2:).

Thanks Ms. Mod!

And what about the actor playing Roland? Will it be Russell Crowe? I hope not....

Moderator
August 21st, 2012, 11:07 AM
Thanks Ms. Mod!

And what about the actor playing Roland? Will it be Russell Crowe? I hope not....

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news for you, but that's still who they're currently in talks with for the part.

Bryan James
August 21st, 2012, 11:13 AM
Re: Crowe

Not my first choice.....and the truth is that I do NOT have a first choice. I don't think I want to see the damned movie. Crowe doesn't "fit" as I see it, but Hollywood can work all sorts of magic.

Let's give ol' Danny Lewis a crack at Roland, what have you?

jones18
August 21st, 2012, 11:34 AM
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news for you, but that's still who they're currently in talks with for the part.

Hhmm....I don't see Crowe as Roland. Physically he's even less Roland than the previous attached Javier Bardem, in my opinion.
Just out of curiosity (if you know and can say it here, of course)...but what happened with Bardem? Do they want a bigger name or what?

Moderator
August 21st, 2012, 11:38 AM
Hhmm....I don't see Crowe as Roland. Physically he's even less Roland than the previous attached Javier Bardem, in my opinion.
Just out of curiosity (if you know and can say it here, of course)...but what happened with Bardem? Do they want a bigger name or what?

No, I don't know why he's no longer in the picture, no pun intended, or whether it was mutual or one or the other of the parties decided to move on.

not_nadine
August 21st, 2012, 11:44 AM
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news for you, but that's still who they're currently in talks with for the part.

Ms. Mod, are you able to have an opinion on Crowe - or is it best to just get the zipper?

Moderator
August 21st, 2012, 11:47 AM
Ms. Mod, are you able to have an opinion on Crowe - or is it best to just get the zipper?

Do you mean my personal opinion or Steve's?

not_nadine
August 21st, 2012, 11:48 AM
Yours. But now that you say that - both :smile2:

Bryan James
August 21st, 2012, 11:54 AM
If Crowe is Roland, the movie will get a lot of over-attention. That might actually be a Good Thing.

Since King's already sold the specific rights...we just have to Hope.

And wait.

Moderator
August 21st, 2012, 11:55 AM
Steve thinks he'd do a good job. I told him I'd never been much of a Russell Crowe fan because I think he mumbles too much. His response was, "Weeeellllll, then...." We both chuckled and moved on. :biggrin2: If I had to choose between him and Bardem, though, I'd probably go for Crowe based more on a closer physical similarity to my mental image of Roland and hope they do some very good sound editing.

MemnochTheDevil
August 21st, 2012, 02:45 PM
Has Mr. King thought about putting any of his own money in on this, or does he try to keep a wall up between his books and their movies? I have greatly enjoyed Roland's adventures and would give anything to see it on the big screen. A lot of the arguments go back to money issues, budget cuts, etc. If he just got behind this with his own money, could he push it forward himself? I know he doesn't want to commit the next couple of years to getting this made on his own, but it seems to me like he would want to see his "Lord of the Rings" come to life. Just act as a producer, put up some money, take his piece off the ticket receipts, and consult when people had questions. I have been excited to see this get traction over the last couple of years, but man do I hate reading these articles about studios passing on this. I would be throwing money and resources at this.

Moderator
August 21st, 2012, 02:51 PM
I didn't read through the several inches thick contract so don't know what arrangements are for his financial participation, if any. His first love is for writing the books, though, not financing film adaptations.

nate_watkins
August 21st, 2012, 04:50 PM
Steve thinks he'd do a good job. I told him I'd never been much of a Russell Crowe fan because I think he mumbles too much. His response was, "Weeeellllll, then...." We both chuckled and moved on. :biggrin2: If I had to choose between him and Bardem, though, I'd probably go for Crowe based more on a closer physical similarity to my mental image of Roland and hope they do some very good sound editing.

Maybe the mumbling would be okay for some of the quieter parts of the story. Just as long as they don't change Oy to a Billy Mumbler.

Liger1
August 21st, 2012, 09:52 PM
I recently read an article that MRC was looking into picking the film adaptation. I read through several comments from fans of the books, and critics of WB. The consensus seems to be that most agree Crowe is the wrong actor to play the role of Roland Deschain. In fact, Roland is a dead-ringer for Clint Eastwood in his "spaghetti westerns". Has anyone thought of Karl Urban? His role in the movie "Priest" could have been a younger Clint. I'm just saying...

tower-obsession
August 21st, 2012, 10:55 PM
Daniel Day Lewis fits my image of Roland way better than Russell Crowe.

That said, I think that no matter who they pick, I won't expect much. If they even get the project off the ground.

Sawney Beane
August 22nd, 2012, 12:27 AM
As long as Javier Bardem is out of it looks pretty good to me

Otherkat
August 22nd, 2012, 07:23 AM
Hi guys, I am new here and, well I must say the reason I joined is because I just learned it might be Russell Crowe who would play Roland's part... really? I like him both as a person and an actor, but ... really? The physique is so far away from Roland, the pose, the tone is so hollywoodian.. OK , as a European I might be biased but you know, I thought someone like Gaspard Ulliel (who incarnated the young Hannibal Lecter in the movie) would be more corresponding.
Here's a pic, what do you think? Black hair, blue eyes, slender, but with a trig look about him somehow!
Sincerely yours,
Another Constant Reader.
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CCAL
August 22nd, 2012, 09:09 AM
otherkat I just looked at your pic. Thats a child-might be ok for little Jake but Roland?? only in flashbacks in my opinion.seriously how old is that boy?

sswolf
December 13th, 2012, 09:01 AM
it would be awesome if they do make a movie, but i would hope they would have the politeness to do a series, and try to stick to the original story as closely as possible, i hate it when you read a story then watch the movie to go with it and it is no where near the same lines, or they get names or plots wrong. hope for the best get what they want!